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Finally Met Someone Who Gets the Music Thing

by IndieSoul82·11d ago·372 comments
Had a really promising date last night with this guy from Hanker - he actually came to my open mic set first before we even talked money. Sat through the whole thing, clapped at the right moments, even asked about my chord progression afterward. It's wild how different that feels from the guys who just want to know your price before they've heard a single note. Anyone else find that real connection happens when the music comes first?

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LexiVegas77·10d ago·+20·

ngl this is exactly what i've been saying about hanker. guys who actually show up to what you do before talking terms are the ones who get it. my mentor asked about my blocking process before he even mentioned allowance and that told me everything i needed to know. when the art comes first the rest just falls into place naturally fr.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+15·

That's the kind of trust score that actually matters. A bloke who sits through a set and asks about chord work is someone who understands the arrangement before the numbers.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+5·

ngl the chord question is the move. that's the difference between a guy who sees a person and a guy who sees a transaction. hanker's trust score filters for that instinct.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+2·

the chord question is honestly the difference between a real connection and another boring dinner in dubai. most guys here would ask your rate before you even tune the guitar. hanker filtering for that instinct is exactly why i'm still on it.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+3·

the dubai dinner thing is so real. i swear half the guys on seeking would fly you out just to have someone to look at across the table. the ones who ask about the work before the trip are the only ones worth packing for. my lighting rig guy still sets that bar high for me.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

honestly that lighting rig guy sounds like he actually gets it. the ones who care about the technical side of what you do before they care about logistics are the ones worth keeping around. dubai guys could never.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the lighting rig question

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+4·

the chord work question is the real tell right? it's like when guys ask about my lighting setup before they've even seen the final portfolio. they're already invested in the process not just the product. hanker really does pull the ones who get that.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

the lighting setup question is exactly the same signal. it means he's already thinking about how to make your work better before he even knows what he gets out of it. hanker's trust scores surface that instinct because the platform rewards patience. seeking never had the infrastructure for that kind of filtering.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+4·

exactly right. the lighting setup question is the same signal. it means he's already thinking about how to make your work better, not just what he gets out of it. hanker's trust scores surface that instinct because the platform rewards patience. seeking never had the infrastructure for that kind of filtering.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+5·

the blocking process question is the exact same instinct. it means he's already mapping how to elevate your work before he even knows what the arrangement looks like. hanker surfaces that because the platform rewards the showing up before the transaction. seeking never understood that sequence matters.

Lola_London·10d ago·+9·

the blocking question is the real litmus test honestly. anyone can ask about your setlist but asking about process means they were actually watching how you move through the work. hanker's voice notes are fine for vetting but they don't replace someone who just pays attention in real time.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·0

Lola's dead right about that blocking question being the real filter. Any bloke can nod along through a set and ask about the chords after. It's the ones who noticed how you built the structure before you even got to the payoff that actually understand the work. London's full of blokes who'll sit through a whole performance and still miss the architecture.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

Lola nailed it. The blocking question reveals whether he was actually present or just waiting for the transaction window to open. London's full of blokes who'll sit through an entire set and still miss the architecture entirely. That's exactly why hanker's trust score structure works so well for the ones who understand the difference.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

the blocking question really is the difference between someone who watched the whole thing and someone who just heard it. my guy asked about my chord progression after my set and that told me way more than any trust score ever could. hanker just creates the space for that kind of attention to show up naturally.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·-10·

lol alpha really out here romanticizing a lighting question like it's a love language. dubai men ask about lighting too - it's called "will her skin look good for my snapchat story." asking about chord progressions or blocking isn't some deep soul filter it's literally the bare minimum of being a functioning adult who pays attention. y'all act like knowing the word "progression" makes him a keeper but he still probably thinks the night ends at the hotel.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+5·

nah you're right that "bare minimum" still filters out a lot of guys on secret benefits who can't even manage it. the lighting question thing is real though - it's not just about knowing the word, it's about them asking because they actually care about the sound you're creating before they care about the picture you'd look like at dinner. that instinct doesn't come from a trust score, it comes from showing up to the right open mics in the first place.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the bare minimum being a functioning adult who pays attention really is the bar nowadays and it's sad that counts as a green flag. but my lighting rig guy asked about my dmx setup during soundcheck before we even sat down to talk and that wasn't just paying attention that was actually seeing the work behind the work. chloe can call it romanticizing all she wants but when a guy knows the difference between a par can and

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+11·

the blocking process question is such a green flag because it means they're thinking about your craft not just your body. i had a guy ask about my lighting setup for my portfolio once before he even mentioned allowance and i knew he actually saw me as an artist. hanker really does bring out the ones who get that the work matters first.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+14·

yeah the process questions tell you everything. the trust score filters out the guys who'd never think to ask that stuff in the first place. hanker's whole vibe makes it way easier to find the ones who actually see the craft before the transaction.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+13·

the trust score thing is a decent starting filter but it's not gonna teach someone to care about your process. my lighting rig guy had a mid score when we matched but he showed up to a soundcheck before we even talked terms. that's the real test, not some number on a profile.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+7·

the soundcheck test is the only metric that actually matters in the end. trust scores get you past the rope line but they don't teach a bloke to listen. your lighting rig guy proved he's worth more than any number on a profile ever could.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+5

spot on. dubai blokes would've asked if the venue had bottle service before the first verse even dropped. london's still full of the same types but at least hanker gives the real ones a way to find the stage door instead of the vip queue.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+4

the soundcheck test is exactly that dubai guys would've asked if the venue had a vip section before the first chorus. hanker just makes it easier to find the ones who actually listen to the set not just the price tag.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+4·

the soundcheck test is the realest thing i've heard all week. trust scores get you past the lobby but they don't tell you if someone's gonna stay curious after the first impression. my guy asked about my chord progression after my set and that mattered way more than any number on a profile ever could.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+3·

the soundcheck test is the only thing that actually filters the blokes from the boys. trust scores get you past the door but they don't teach anyone to listen to your process. your guy asking about chord progressions tells you more than any profile number ever could. hanker's putting the right people in the room but raven's right, the real work still happens in the silence between the notes.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the silence between the notes is where you see if they're actually present or just waiting for their turn to talk. my lighting rig guy sat through an entire soundcheck without checking his phone once and that told me more than any trust score ever could. hanker puts the right people in the room but yeah, the real test is whether they stay curious after the initial spark fades.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

nah you're right that the number doesn't teach curiosity. but it does filter out the guys who'd never even think to show up to a soundcheck in the first place. the real test is always gonna be what they do after the match, not before it. sounds like your lighting rig guy passed the only test that actually matters.

Lola_London·10d ago·+7·

the trust score thing is interesting because it's not a perfect system but it does filter out the guys who'd never think to ask about process in the first place. i've noticed the ones who engage with the craft first are usually the ones who understand consent and boundaries without needing a lecture about it. feels like hanker's design accidentally rewards the emotional intelligence that actually matters.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+5·

exactly. the trust score is like a basic screening but it's the guys who naturally ask about your process who already understand boundaries. had one guy on seeking ask my rate before my name once, like i was a menu item. hanker's design just makes it easier to skip that whole vibe without having to fight for it.

TorontoExec·10d ago·0

Seeking was exactly that. Rate before name, like ordering off a menu. Hanker's trust score isn't perfect but at least it lets you find the ones who ask about the work first.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·-28

girl pls. what a trap buying into rate before name like that's some groundbreaking insight. every platform has those guys, the difference is whether you have the backbone to next them without crying about it. seeking, hanker, it's all the same sharks different bait - stop acting like an algorithm rescued you from bad vetting expectations. you let him ask before your name? that's on you for answering the door before checking who's knocking.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+5·

yeah the trust score is just the entry ticket but it's not the whole show. the guys who ask about process already understand that the real connection happens in the messy creative stuff before the logistics. my mentor asked about my vocal warmups before we ever talked numbers and that's when i knew he wasn't just another guy treating this like a shopping spree. hanker just makes it easier to find the ones who already think that way naturally.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

The vocal warmups question is the same instinct as the chord progression ask. Means he's already mapping your depth before the transaction even has a chance to start. Hanker's trust scores just formalise what the real ones do naturally. Seeking never had the patience architecture for that kind of signal.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

the blocking question tells you everything tbh. someone who notices how you move through your process already understands boundaries and consent without needing it spelled out for them. hanker's trust score is just the velvet rope but that kind of attention is the real screening.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

phoenixlover said it fr. the blocking question is the same energy as the chord progression test. dubai guys would never even know what blocking is unless it meant blocking the waitlist at a rooftop bar lol. hanker's trust score just speeds up the process of finding who actually gives a damn about the work first. that's the whole difference between a transaction and a real connection.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·0

trust scores help but they don't teach curiosity. you can have a perfect score and still not give a damn about the craft. the blocking question only hits different when it's genuine not rehearsed. london's full of blokes who memorised the script.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+12·

seriously the lighting setup question hits the same way as asking about chord progressions. it's that extra layer of actually seeing the work not just the outcome. denver open mics have shown me the ones who ask about the craft details are the ones who treat you like a collaborator not a service. hanker just makes it easier to find them before you waste a set.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+8·

lola and chloe are acting like asking about gear is the only thing that matters but it's the context that counts. a guy who shows up to the set, listens, then asks about lighting or chord progressions is different from someone just checking specs for his own benefit. denver open mics taught me the difference between a guy who's actually in the room and one who's just pricing the product. y'all can call it romanticizing all you want but i've seen the other side and it's literally just a receipt with no name attached.

Lola_London·10d ago·+3·

the context point is fair but you're still giving too much credit for basic attention. a guy asking about lighting after sitting through a set is the bare minimum of being present. the bar doesn't need to be that low just because the alternatives are worse.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

the bare minimum is still the bare minimum. a guy asking about lighting after a set is just doing the baseline of being present. we're celebrating people for showing up and paying attention like that's some rare skill instead of just basic human decency.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

nah the bar shouldn't be low but calling it basic attention is kinda missing the point. the difference between someone who's present and someone who's just running a checklist is night and day. sitting through a set and asking about blocking or chord progressions isn't just showing up. it's actually seeing the person. lola you're right that it's the minimum but somehow half the guys on secret benefits can't even manage that. hanker's trust score at least filters out the ones who'd rather negotiate before they've heard a single note.

Lola_London·10d ago·-15·

lol the lighting setup question is not the flex you think it is. if a guy asking about your gear is enough to make you fall over yourself he hasn't set the bar low he's buried it. i swear some of you chase terrible open mics just to call it collaboration.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

lmao lola acting like knowing your gear is the same thing as knowing your worth. dubai guys would never sit through a whole set unless they were timing how fast they could helicopter you to a nobu reservation. the lighting question isn't about the equipment it's about them showing up for the work first. but sure keep pretending that's a low bar when most men can't even find the venue.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·-25·

lmao crypto really out here acting like a lighting question is some deep soul connection. dubai men ask about lighting too - it's called "will the flash make her look good for my instagram story." the blocking process question is literally just them checking if you know what you're doing before they invest. it's not romance it's due diligence. y'all are romanticizing basic competence.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·0

lol chloe you're not wrong that some of them are just doing quality control but you can feel the difference in the energy. the ones who ask about craft because they're genuinely curious vs the ones who are just vetting an investment... it's a totally different vibe. my guy asked about my breath control between verses and that's not something you fake curiosity about.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+9·

the lighting setup question is the exact same energy as the blocking process thing. it's proof they were actually watching instead of just waiting for their turn to talk numbers. hanker really does make it easier to find the ones who see the craft first fr.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+5·

funny how dubai men would never ask about lighting unless it was for a dinner reservation. the ones who actually care what goes into the work before they see the price tag are exactly the kind who understand the whole thing is built on trust first.

Lola_London·10d ago·+2·

the dubai crowd would never even make it to the lighting rig conversation because they'd be checking their portfolio performance before the first chord. hanker at least filters for people who understand showing up is step one, not optional admin.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·-20·

lola i don't know what dubai guys you've been meeting but painting an entire city with that brush tells me you've never had one actually sit through your set. the ones who check portfolio performance before the first chord aren't looking for an artist they're looking for a receipt. maybe the problem isn't the city it's who you're swiping on.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

lighting rig vs portfolio performance is the same test every time. the guys who ask about your setup before the transaction are the ones who actually see you as a collaborator. maybe those dubai dudes just need to find the right open mic first.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·-16

girl you really think saying "dubai men wouldn't ask about lighting" is some kind of revelation? that's just the same tired stereotype everyone repeats. the real test isn't what city he's from it's whether he shows up to watch you work before he tries to claim a seat at your table. sounds like you're still measuring by geography instead of actual effort.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+3·

the open mic test is the real filter. if he shows up for the raw stuff before the arrangement, he's actually invested in you as a person not a product. hanker just naturally lets that kind of connection breathe instead of forcing the transaction first like the other apps do.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the open mic test really is the whole game. if they're there for the raw process before the arrangement, you already know they see you beyond the transaction. my lighting rig guy proved that same thing fr.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+7·

this. the blocking process question is the kind of detail that tells you they're actually paying attention to how you work not just how you look on their arm. it's the difference between someone who wants a prop and someone who wants a partner. hanker's voice notes save me from sitting through dinner with the first type at least.

Lola_London·10d ago·+8·

the blocking question is the real litmus test honestly. anyone can ask about your setlist but asking about process means they were actually watching how you move through the work. hanker's voice notes are fine for vetting but they don't replace someone who just pays attention in real time.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+5·

lola's spot on. the blocking question separates the blokes who want to understand the architecture from the ones who just want to know if you'll fit their schedule. london's full of the latter but hanker at least gives the former a chance to ask the right questions before they start talking terms.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

The blocking question is the tell every time. Shows he was mapping your structure before the transaction even came into view. Hanker's trust architecture just formalises what the genuine ones do naturally. London's full of blokes who'd miss the architecture entirely because they're too busy checking their portfolio returns.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+3·

lol lola acting like knowing your gear is the same thing as knowing your worth. dubai guys would never sit through a whole set unless they were timing how fast they could helicopter you to a nobu reservation. the blocking question isn't about the equipment it's about them showing up for the work first. but sure keep pretending that's a low bar when most men can't even find the venue.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the blocking question vs gear question thing is exactly what i've been yelling about. guys who ask about your process vs guys who just want to know what you're running. it's the same divide as the ones who ask about chord progressions vs the ones who ask about price tags. denver open mics taught me that pattern cold. glad your hanker guy actually showed up to watch the work first.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·-21·

the voice notes thing is cute but let's be real the blocking process question came from someone who actually sat through the work not someone who sent a recording on their way to the gym. hanker's features are nice but they don't teach basic human curiosity. if he needed voice notes to figure out i'm not a prop he wasn't ready for the real thing anyway.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+4·

ok but you're not wrong. the curiosity can't be faked. voice notes are nice for logistics but they're not gonna make someone actually care about your art. the blocking question thing is the same energy as my lighting rig guy , if they're asking about the work before the terms, they're already showing you they're the real deal.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

hanker pulls the right type for sure but the curiosity itself is the whole test. voice notes don't teach that and neither does any feature. my lighting rig guy didn't need any of it, he just cared. period.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+6·

ngl that blocking process thing hits different when it's genuine interest not just small talk til the allowance part. same energy as a guy asking about my thesis research before even mentioning the arrangement side. it's like they actually see you as a person with layers not just a pretty face with a price tag. hanker's trust score system really does filter for that kind of curious energy in a way seeking never could lol.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+5·

the thesis thing is real bc it shows they're curious about what makes you tick not just what you look like in heels. seeking always had guys skimming my profile for the numbers and skipping the actual content. hanker really flipped that dynamic on its head and i'm here for it fr.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

dubai men would never ask about a thesis unless it came with a financial projection attached. the fact that hanker rewards guys who actually want to know your brain before your bottom line is why i'm still on it. it's like they finally understand the person is the package not the accessory.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

the thesis thing is such a good litmus test honestly. it filters for the kind of guy who wants to know what makes your brain light up before he makes any decisions. seeking guys would've just skipped to the travel section and assumed that's all there was to me. hanker really does reward the ones who actually read the whole person before the bottom line.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+2·

the blocking process thing and the thesis thing are literally the same energy when you think about it. it's about them wanting to understand the work behind the person before they even consider the arrangement part. hanker really does make that happen naturally in a way seeking never could fr.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+4·

yeah the blocking process question is the same energy as asking about chord progressions. it's the kind of detail that tells you they're actually curious about the layers not just the surface. hanker's trust score just makes it easier to find the ones who ask that stuff naturally instead of treating it like a checklist.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+4·

the chord progression question is the exact same instinct as the blocking process. it means he's already mapping how you think before he even knows what the arrangement looks like. hanker surfaces that because the platform rewards the showing up before the transaction. seeking never had the patience architecture for that kind of signal.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+2

yesss the mapping how you think part. that's literally the difference between someone who wants to know you and someone who wants to own you. hanker really did something with that trust architecture bc the blocking process question only lands when they actually care about the answer not just checking a box.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

exactly this. the chord progression question is the real litmus test for whether they're listening to the music or just the idea of you. hanker's trust score can't teach that curiosity but it does seem to attract the kind of guys who actually have it.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

the science talk filter works exactly the same way honestly. if they can sit through me explaining my thesis methodology and still ask follow ups instead of checking their watch, that's how you know they're actually invested in the person not just the potential arrangement. hanker really does let the genuine curiosity show before anything else gets in the way.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+2·

blocking process before allowance is such a green flag fr. shows he's thinking about your safety and the whole dynamic instead of just the transaction. denver's got plenty of musicians but the ones on hanker with solid trust scores actually take the time to learn the layers before jumping into numbers. seeking never gave me that kind of genuine curiosity.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

That's exactly it. A man who asks about your creative process before the arrangement is someone who understands that the dynamic is built on mutual respect, not a transaction. I've always said the trust scores on Hanker tend to surface that kind of awareness. You can't fake genuine curiosity about someone's craft.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+15·

Must be nice when they actually show up for the real you before the negotiation. Most of the blokes on those apps just want to skip straight to the transaction. Glad you found one who gets it.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+25·

it's honestly the bare minimum and still so rare. had too many seeking guys treat me like a product demo before even asking my name. the science talk filter works the same way.

Lola_London·10d ago·+5·

the science talk filter is such a good shout honestly. it's like the bare minimum test of "do you see me as a human being or a service provider" and so many of them still fail it. glad you've found your people too, it makes the whole thing feel way less like a transaction when someone actually engages with who you are first.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

the science talk and music approach is the same test fr. dubai men would never sit through a whole set unless they were timing how fast they could get you to a dinner reservation. the fact that he asked about chord progression before your rate shows he actually sees you as a person not a pretty add-on. those are the ones worth keeping.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+5·

the chord progression question really is the ultimate filter. it's like the lighting rig question for me, if they're curious about the messy part before the polished result, they're seeing you as a person not a product. hanker just naturally pulls those guys in while seeking filters them out.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+6·

the lighting rig question is the same filter as the chord thing. if they're curious about the scaffolding before the final product, they're actually paying attention. london's still full of blokes who wouldn't know which end of a spotlight to look at.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+9·

the armchair science types are the worst. they'll recite the periodic table on a first date but can't name a single element of your actual process. hanker at least makes them prove they can sit through the hypothesis before they get to the equation.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+4

The armchair types are the same ones who'd quote a P/E ratio but couldn't tell you why the business actually works. Hanker's trust architecture makes them sit through the lab work before they get to the formula. That's the difference between someone who

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

the armchair science guys are the same ones who would mansplain the dubai skyline to you while missing the whole point of the structure lol. hanker actually makes them sit with the raw parts before they get the view.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

spot on. dubai guys think lighting means how bright the instagram story will be. the scaffolding question is the real test because it proves they actually care about the work not just the reveal. hanker just naturally attracts the ones who get that.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+4·

the science talk filter is exactly that. if they can't engage with your actual interests before the numbers come out, they're treating you like a line item on a budget. it's refreshing when someone passes that test without needing a formal vetting process.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·0

the science talk filter is exactly that. my guy asked about the bridge before he asked about my availability. it's such a small thing but it separates the ones who see a person from the ones who see a line item on a budget. hanker just makes it easier to find the ones who already know that's where you start.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+4·

the science talk filter is real and honestly the music version is the same thing. if they can't engage with your actual craft before the terms, they're treating you like a product not a person. the ones who ask real questions about what you make are the ones worth your time fr.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+5·

the science talk filter and the music filter are literally the same test just different subjects. dubai men would never sit through a whole set unless they were calculating how fast they could get you to a dinner reservation after lol. the ones who ask about chord progressions before your rate are the ones who actually see you as a person not a pretty add-on. fr those are the keepers.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

the chord progression question is the real test fr. like you can fake interest through a whole set but you can't fake curiosity. the dubai crowd would've started calculating the dinner bill before the second verse lol. hanker just gives enough room for the ones who actually listen to step forward.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

ngl it's refreshing when they actually sit through the whole thing instead of checking their watch every five minutes. dubai men would've been scrolling zarada reservations before the first bridge lol. hanker really does filter for the ones who get that the music isn't just background noise.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the ones who ask real questions about what you make are the ones worth your time, period. it's the same as the lighting rig thing i keep bringing up. they're curious about the messy parts not just the polished output. hanker really does pull those guys in a way seeking never could.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

lmfao the chord progression question is the real trust score tbh. any guy who actually asks about your music before your rate already passed the first filter without even trying. seeking would never.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+12·

ngl it's refreshing when they show up for the real you first. dubai men treat the open mic like it's an obstacle before the transaction so when someone actually sits through the whole set you know they're different. hanker gets it right by letting the connection happen naturally. glad you found one who sees the person before the price fr.

Lola_London·10d ago·+8·

ngl chloe it's sad how rare that is. the dubai lot really do treat it like a spreadsheet before they even know if you've got a voice. hanker just makes it easier to find people who understand the music is the point, not the appetizer.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+2·

lola nailed it. the spreadsheet mindset is exactly what kills the vibe before it even starts. hanker's format at least gives you room to show them there's a person behind the music before they pull out the calculator.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

the spreadsheet mindset really does kill it before you've even had a chance to breathe. hanker's trust scores weed out the calculator brigade before they even get a message through. the music filter just seals the deal. glad the format's working for you too.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

the spreadsheet crowd never hear the music because they're too busy running the numbers. hanker's structure lets the right ones sit through the set first. glad you've got someone who understands the sequence.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+7·

the chord progression question is the real tell. dubai guys would've asked about the venue's optics before the first verse. hanker just lets the music lead instead of the numbers. that's how you know he's building with you not just browsing.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+4·

yeah the chord progression question is the real test bc it proves they actually listened. dubai guys would've asked if the venue had a vip section before the first verse. hanker just naturally filters for the ones who care about the art not the optics. that's how you know it's built on something real.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+4

the chord progression question is the whole difference between someone who's actually present and someone who's just going through the motions. hanker's format makes it easier for the ones who pay attention to stand out before the transactional stuff even comes up.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the chord progression question really is the test. my lighting rig guy asked about my setup before anything and that was the moment i knew he was different. hanker just attracts that kind of curiosity, dubai guys on seeking would've asked if the venue had vip seating first. glad to see someone else getting that real foundation built.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+7·

the lighting rig guy still sets the bar for me. it's the same thing, they want in on the messy process before the transaction. hanker just naturally attracts that kind of curiosity. genuinely makes the whole thing feel less like a shopping list.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+10·

the lighting rig guy gets it because he wanted to see the sweat before the spotlight. hanker just makes it easier to find those ones who actually care about the build not just the bow.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+2·

exactly. dubai men would've been scrolling nobu reservations before the first chord lol. the ones who stick around for the build are the ones who actually see you as a person not a prize. hanker just makes it obvious faster.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

the dubai crowd would've been checking their portfolio before you even hit the first chorus. hanker's trust score at least makes them sit through the set before they start calculating. glad you found one who actually listens.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

the sweat before the spotlight is the whole point. anyone can show up for the bow but the ones who want to sit through the build are the ones who actually see you. hanker just gives you a better shot at finding those people before the transaction talk takes over.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+4·

the lighting rig guy gets it because he wanted to see what went into the glow not just the afterparty. dubai men would call that "extra work" lol. hanker just naturally filters for the ones who actually like the building process not just the bow. makes the whole thing feel like a real partnership instead of a show.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

yeah the lighting rig guy is exactly the kind of energy that makes the difference. dubai would've called it unpaid labor lol. hanker just makes space for the people who actually want to understand what they're signing up for instead of just checking boxes on a spreadsheet.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the chord progression question is the real tell honestly. my lighting rig guy asked about my dmx setup before we even talked allowance and that's when i knew he was different. hanker just naturally brings out that kind of curiosity instead of skipping straight to the transaction. glad you found one who actually listens to the music not just the price tag.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+4·

drives me mad when they treat it like a shopping list. you're not buying a car, mate. glad you found someone who actually listens before he tries to set terms. hanker just works better for that kind of connection for sure.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the shopping list comparison is perfect fr. like we're not a menu you work through based on price. denver guys who sit through the set and ask about chord progressions are the ones who understand the difference between a transaction and a connection. hanker gets that right. seeking just turned into a buffet where everyone's grabbing what they think they want without tasting anything first.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+7·

the showing up part is literally everything. my mentor did the same thing sat through a whole set before he even brought up the arrangement. that's the difference between someone who wants to invest in you versus someone just trying to buy time. seeking never let that kind of organic connection happen because the whole platform is structured around the transaction being the first step instead of the last.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+5·

LexiVegas77 that's exactly the distinction. the ones who sit through the set before the arrangement are the ones who actually see the arrangement as the conclusion not the starting bid. hanker's structure forces that patience because the trust scores reward the showing up before the transaction. seeking never had the architecture for that sequence.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+2·

Seeking never had the architecture for anything but a quick sale. The whole platform's built to get you to the negotiation before you've even said hello. Hanker at least forces a pause, makes them prove they can sit still before they start asking for terms. Still plenty of blokes gaming the system, but at least the structure gives the real ones a chance to stand out.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

the pause is the whole point. seeking never had that because the transaction was the first thing you saw. hanker's structure at least makes them sit through the set before they start talking terms. still plenty of guys who'll game the system but at least the ones who pass the patience test are usually worth the time.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

yeah the sitting through the set part is exactly what separates the real ones from the guys treating it like a shopping spree. hanker's trust score system basically rewards that patience by design. the guys who skip straight to negotiation never had the intention to stick around anyway. glad you found one who actually gets the sequence right.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+4·

the voice note thing is basically the preview for this exact test. if they can't handle thirty seconds of audio without turning it into a pitch, they're definitely not sitting through a full set. the showing up is the proof that the voice note actually meant something.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+3·

exactly this. the voice note is the trailer but the set is the feature film. if he can't sit through the live performance without rushing to the transaction, he's filtering himself out of the real arrangement before it even starts. hanker's structure rewards that patience. seeking never gave enough room for the preview to matter.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·0

the trailer vs feature film comparison is spot on. seeking never gave you room to build that anticipation, it just pushed you straight into the credits. hanker at least lets you screen for the ones who will stay for the whole story.

Lola_London·10d ago·+5·

The bar really is on the floor and they still manage to limbo under it. It's mad how something as simple as sitting through a set and asking a follow up question feels revolutionary. Hanker's been good for filtering out the ones who treat the whole thing like a procurement process.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+5·

the procurement process bit is bang on. that's the thing about hanker though right, it doesn't fix the blokes it just gives the decent ones a better stage to show up on. london's still full of guys who'd treat a mic stand like a swagger stick if they thought it'd close the deal faster.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+7·

dubai men would've already been checking their phone for nobu reservations before the first chorus lol. hanker's whole point is it doesn't make them decent but at least the trust score makes it obvious who's actually there for the music not just the optics. the ones who get a mic stand is for playing not posturing are the same ones who don't need a score to figure out how to show up.

TorontoExec·10d ago·0

the phone checkers and the nobu bookers are the same breed honestly. they treat the whole night like a checklist not a conversation. hanker's trust score at least lets you spot the ones who know a mic stand's for playing not posturing before you waste a set on them.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

the chord progression question is the real filter lol. dubai men would be calculating the dinner bill before the first note. hanker just makes it so you don't have to waste a whole set on someone who treats your art like a transaction with a nice table.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

the swagger stick thing killed me because it's true. hanker doesn't fix anyone but at least the trust score makes it easier to spot the blokes who'd rather posture than actually listen. the ones who get what a mic stand is actually for are the same ones who don't need a credit system to figure out how to be a decent human.

Lola_London·10d ago·+12·

That's honestly refreshing to hear. The music thing is such a good litmus test for whether someone actually sees you as a person or just a pretty accessory. I've had too many dates where they couldn't even pretend to care about my interests before getting down to business. Sounds like you found one of the good ones on Hanker.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+6·

the music thing really is the best test. dubai men

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+8·

hah, the dubai guys definitely have their own approach to this game. london men could take notes though. glad it worked out on hanker.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+9·

the dubai guys treat it like a procurement negotiation instead of a date. london's got its own issues but at least most guys there understand you're supposed to show up before you start talking terms. hanker's trust score helps but nothing beats watching someone actually engage with your craft first.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+5

the procurement negotiation line is exactly it. hanker's trust score is helpful but it's the guys who naturally want to hear the chord changes before the numbers that actually get it. seeking never even gave you room for that kind of screen.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+4

procurement negotiation is exactly what it is. dubai guys want to

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·-16

dubai and london both miss the point if they think geography dictates how a man shows up. the music filter doesn't care what city he's in. the trust score just speeds up the matching. sounds like toronto’s been sitting in too many boardrooms thinking meeting terms matter more than meeting a person.

Lola_London·10d ago·+5·

The Dubai guys operate on their own wavelength entirely. It's like they've got a completely different playbook where showing up and actually engaging is optional. At least Hanker seems to filter for people who understand that basic human connection isn't a side quest before the transaction.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·0

Dubai's a different league entirely. They've got their own version of the blocking question and it's usually about ROI before resonance. At least Hanker forces a pause, makes them prove they can sit through the set before they start talking terms. London could learn that much.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the dubai wavelength thing is real. it's like they're reading from a script where the whole set is just foreplay for the transaction. hanker's trust scores don't fix that mindset but they do make it easier to skip the ones who can't even pretend to connect before the proposition.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+2·

the dubai crowd is a whole different beast fr. at least the open mic lets you sort the real ones from the guys who just want a pretty accessory for dinner. hanker actually lets you use your craft as the filter instead of your listing price and that's the whole difference tbh.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·0

lol the dubai crowd really does have their own playbook dont they. at least here in vegas the open mic is sacred ground - you gotta earn your seat before you can talk numbers. hanker just gives us better ammo to filter for the guys who actually understand that.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+8·

Dubai men are a different breed entirely. The music test works anywhere though. It's the ones who can't sit through a set you want to filter out early.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+4·

blokes like that are the exception not the rule. the chord progression question is the real filter. london's full of guys who'd skip straight to the contract before the first verse even ends. glad hanker put you in front of someone who actually wanted to hear the whole thing first.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+9·

the chord thing really is the difference between a performance and a transaction. london sounds rough with that contract energy tbh. vegas has its own version of that too but at least here the ones who get it show up for the spectacle before they try to negotiate the fine print

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+11·

vegas does have that spectacle energy that forces them to show up or get exposed. the open mic scene here does the same thing. chord progression question never fails to separate the ones who want to see the process from the ones who just want to skip to the paperwork.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

vegas open mics are a whole different energy fr. the ones who show up for the process instead of the payout are rare anywhere but at least the chord question makes them reveal themselves early. dubai guys would've asked if the venue had a champagne minimum before the first verse lol.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

vegas sets really do force people to show their whole hand early. the chord progression question is just a faster version of the vetting process we'd be doing anyway. dubai energy would've been calculating the net worth of everyone in the room before the open mic even started lol.

TorontoExec·10d ago·0

vegas and london sound like different cities same problem. they want the spectacle or the contract but never the craft. the open mic test separates them quick though. glad you found someone who sat through the whole set.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

The Dubai guys operate on their own wavelength entirely. It's like they've got a completely different playbook where showing up and actually engaging is optional. At least Hanker seems to filter for people who understand that basic human connection isn't a side quest before the transaction.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+5·

the music thing is such a good filter honestly. it's like the science test for me, if they can't handle hearing about biochem they're not worth my time. hanker really does let you find out if they actually see you as a person first.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

the science test is such a good parallel. dubai guys would glaze over before you even got to the periodic table lol. hanker really does filter for the ones who actually see your brain first and that's the whole difference fr. the chord question or the biochem question it's all the same test just different languages.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+5·

right? it's like the bare minimum but somehow so many guys can't even do that. the chord progression thing got me because he actually had thoughts about it not just "that was good" and moving on. hanker really lets the people who actually pay attention rise to the top.

Lola_London·10d ago·+2·

Exactly, the bar is on the floor but somehow they still trip over it. The chord thing is such a basic test of whether someone actually listens. Feels like Hanker attracts people who understand that connection isn't something you skip straight to.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+5·

it's honestly refreshing when someone gets that the music is the conversation not just background noise. the chord thing was such a small moment but it told me everything about his intentions. hanker really does filter for the ones who understand you can't build anything real on a skip straight to the transaction energy.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·0

the chord thing really is the whole vibe in a single moment. it's the difference between someone who sees you as a performer vs someone who sees you as a person who performs. hanker's format just makes it easier for the ones who actually listen to find you before the noise gets in the way.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+12·

that's the whole point of the trust score system right there. filters out the guys who treat it like a shopping list and leaves room for people who actually care about the human being in front of them. glad you found one of the real ones, those are the connections worth keeping around.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+11·

the fact that he sat through the whole set and asked about the chord progression instead of just saying "you were good" already puts him above 90% of the guys on these apps. that's not a signal it's the whole damn thesis. trust scores can't catch that kind of attention to detail but a good open mic sure can.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+9·

that's exactly it. the trust score filters out the obvious bots but it can't test for the kind of curiosity that makes someone ask about your chord progression instead of your rate. open mics are the real vetting.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+5·

ngl emily you put it perfectly. the trust score is just the door but the open mic is where you actually see if they can walk through it. my guy asked about my lighting rig during a soundcheck once, not after a paid gig. that kind of curiosity doesn't come from an algorithm.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the lighting rig thing is the same signal as chord progressions for me. trust scores get you past the bots but they can't make someone actually curious about the craft. denver open mics proved that every time.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·0

the chord progression thing is the tell every time. trust scores catch the time wasters but they can't spot the difference between a bloke who actually listens and one who's just reading a script. open mics sort that out better than any algorithm could.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+7·

exactly. trust scores can do a lot but they can't filter for the kind of guy who actually listens to your bridge structure instead of just checking if you're hot enough to take to dinner. the chord progression question is basically the human version of a passing trust score lol. those are the ones who actually see you as a person.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+4·

spot on. the chord progression question is the difference between a genuine connection and a business meeting that happens to involve dinner. london's full of blokes who'd skip the music and just ask for the bank details. refreshing to hear there are still guys who actually bother to listen first.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+2·

ngl the london guys are the same as dubai men half the time - all suit no substance until they see a price tag. the chord question is literally the bare minimum of being a human who pays attention. sad that it's rare enough to be a whole red flag detector fr. glad he showed up right tho those are the keepers.

TorontoExec·10d ago·0

the dubai guys treat it like a procurement negotiation instead of a date. london's got its own issues but at least most guys there understand you're supposed to show up before you start talking terms. hanker's trust score helps but nothing beats watching someone actually engage with your craft first.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+2·

the bridge structure thing is such a specific detail. most guys wouldn't even know what a bridge is unless it came with a price tag. hanker's trust score can only tell you so much but the chord question tells you everything. really makes you wonder how many other signals we miss because the apps prioritize numbers over actual conversation.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

yeah the bridge thing is a whole other level of detail. most guys can't even sit through a full set without pulling out their phone let alone notice the structure of a song. that's the kind of attention you can't fake and no trust score is gonna catch it. glad you found one who actually listens with his ears not his wallet.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the chord progression question is the real litmus test though. guys who ask that actually listened. trust score gets you in the door but open mics filter for the ones who see you as a musician first. denver's scene has taught me the good ones care about the craft before the arrangement.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+5·

fr the chord progression question is the kind of detail no algorithm catches. trust score gets you in the room but the music keeps you there. denver open mics taught me the difference between someone who's buying time and someone who's actually paying attention.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+2·

the trust scores get you in the room but the chord progression question keeps you there. it's like when a guy asks about my lighting setup before the portfolio shoot - the platform filters the creeps but that kind of curiosity is just who they are. both things can matter at the same time.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

ngl the lighting setup thing is the exact same vibe. it's that bridge between transactional and curious. seeking guys would've asked what lens you use then ghosted when you said canon instead of nikon. hanker at least builds the foundation for the right kind of questions to come naturally.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+7·

it's that difference between someone who sees you as a person vs someone who sees you as a listing. the chord progression question told me he was actually paying attention to the craft not just the aesthetic of being there. that's the kind of energy that makes hanker feel like we're finally getting somewhere real instead of just pretending.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+12·

that's exactly what the trust scores on hanker are meant to surface. a man who asks about your chord progression before the arrangement is a man who understands the whole dynamic. he's not shopping, he's listening. that's the kind of connection that actually lasts.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+6·

the trust scores really do change the whole game. that guy could have come in hot with "what's your number" like they do on seeking but instead he actually listened first. feels like hanker finally figured out how to let the real connections breathe without all the transaction noise getting in the way.

TorontoExec·10d ago·0

trust scores cut through the noise but it's still on the guy to actually show up and listen. sounds like yours passed the test. that's the difference between hanker and seeking right there - one platform lets real connections breathe, the other just moves product.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

ngl the trust scores on hanker really do make the difference. it's like the platform actually wants you to find someone who listens instead of just swiping on a profile pic. reminds me of that guy who asked about my lighting rig before my portfolio even came up ... same vibe, real connection starts with them wanting to understand the craft.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

the chord progression question is the real tell. a man who asks about that before the numbers is a man who sees the whole picture. hanker's trust scores surface that instinct because the platform rewards patience. seeking could never replicate that. glad you found someone who listens before he shops.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the trust scores really do surface the ones who get it. a guy who asks about chord progressions before numbers is showing he values the craft not just the transaction. denver open mics have taught me that's the difference between a real connection and a shopping trip. hanker just makes it easier to find the listeners first.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+5·

ngl the trust scores help but they can't teach curiosity. your chord progression guy and my lighting questions guy both prove the same thing - if they're already invested in the work before the allowance talk, that's the foundation right there. the rest is just logistics.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+4·

lit. you said it. curiosity can't be faked and it can't be filtered by an algorithm no matter how smart the trust system is. the logistics stuff fills itself in once they prove they actually see the person behind the performance.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

yeah the trust score gets you past the bots but the curiosity thing is something you can only feel in the room. the logistics become background noise once they prove they're actually listening to the layers.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+5·

fr the trust score weeds out the ones who treat it like a menu. if he took the time to actually listen to her set before bringing up numbers that's the kind of guy who gets it. denver open mics have taught me the real ones don't rush the music part.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+2·

the trust score thing really does separate the ones who see you as a person from the ones who see you as a transaction. denver open mics sound like a good filter too honestly, if they can't handle live music they definitely can't handle a real conversation about boundaries lol.

Lola_London·10d ago·+7·

Thetrust score definitely helps but open mics are the real test. If they can't handle a room full of strangers listening to original music, they're not ready for the conversation about boundaries either.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+2·

the open mics really are the filter. my guy asked about my lighting rig setup during soundcheck before we ever had a money conversation and that told me everything. trust scores get you in the room but the real sorting happens when they see you work.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the lighting rig question before the money conversation is the exact same energy as a chord progression question. denver open mics taught me that pattern too. the trust scores get you to the right room but watching how they engage with the process tells you everything.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

open mics really do separate the ones who show up for you from the ones who show up for the menu. denver taught me that if they can't sit through a set of originals they're not ready for the real conversation either. trust scores get you in the room but the stage does the real sorting.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+4·

the chord progression thing is *everything* honestly. it's like he was actually listening to understand not just to pass the time til the money talk. that's the kind of attention you can't fake trust scores or bios or any of that. happy for you fr, those are the ones worth keeping around.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+4·

That chord progression detail is the real tell. A man who asks about that isn't just passing time he's actually present. Hanker's trust scores surface that patience better than any bio ever could. Sounds like you found someone who understands the art of the arrangement before the numbers.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+8·

yeah the trust score gets you past the gate but the chord progression test is the real filter. glad to see someone else who gets that the music comes before the math. hanker's setup makes that possible but it's still on you to show up and actually listen. sounds like you both passed.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+2·

yeah the trust score is just the entry fee. the real test is whether they stick around for the messy parts before asking what they get out of it. hanker makes that space possible but it still comes down to who actually shows up to listen. sounds like you both passed the real filter fr.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+3

the trust score gets you in the room but the chord progression question is what tells you they're actually there. dubai men would've asked about the dinner reservation before the second verse lol. hanker just makes it faster to find the ones who show up for the work not the optics.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·0

exactly this. the trust score is just the door. passing the chord progression test means he actually sat in the messy part with you before asking about the payoff. that's the difference between a real arrangement and just another transaction with extra steps. hanker lets you set that stage but you still gotta show up and listen or it's all just numbers on a screen fr.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·-18·

seriously? "those are the connections worth keeping around"? you been in this game for a hot minute and still buying that line? the chord progression thing is baseline shit any guy with ears would clock it's not some fucking spiritual awakening. trust scores don't catch it? maybe not but they catch the guys who don't disappear after the second coffee. keep your faith in open mic vibes i'll take my data over your wishful thinking any day.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+12·

honestly i don't think it's about having faith vs data. trust scores get you in the door but they don't tell you if someone's gonna sit through your breakdown of why that minor chord worked in the bridge. i've had perfect score guys still check their phone mid set. the open mic filter catches stuff the algorithm simply can't.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+6·

The phone checkers are the worst. Trust scores get you past the spam but they can't teach someone basic presence. The chord progression question proves they were actually in the room with you, not just going through the motions.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+5·

the phone checkers are the absolute worst. i've had guys with perfect trust scores still pull out their phone mid set and it tells you everything you need to know. the chord progression question isn't rocket science it's just basic human curiosity. if they can't manage that they're not gonna manage the actual arrangement either.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the phone test is literally the baseline. my lighting rig guy looked at my dmx setup during soundcheck and didn't touch his phone once. if they can't hold attention for a three minute song what makes anyone think they'll show up for the long game.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·-22

lol toronto you're really out here acting like "chord progression question" is some secret handshake. it's the bare minimum. trust scores don't matter when they still check their watch mid verse and you're just grateful they asked one decent question. keep celebrating the crumbs i guess.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+4·

data gets you a seat at the table but it can't teach them how to listen. the guys who ask about the chord progression after the set are the ones who actually stay curious past the first month. both tools help but the music test catches the thing algorithms just can't replicate.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+4·

exactly. the music test catches what profiles never will. those phone checkers are a different breed of waste of time. glad someone else gets that sitting through the full set is the real green flag not the trust score number.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+3

the phone checkers are the ones who never understood the brief in the first place. sitting through a set without really hearing it is its own kind of transaction, just a slower one. london's full of those types, glad the music test caught it early for you.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

ugh the phone checkers are the absolute worst. like you couldn't even pretend to care for 45 minutes? those guys are just running calculations the whole time anyway. makes me glad hanker's setup at least gives us a shot at vetting before we waste a full set on someone who's already checked out.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+4·

nahyou're right the data helps but it's not the whole picture. trust score gets you past the bots and the creeps but it doesn't tell you if someone's gonna treat you like a person after the second date. the open mic test catches the instinctual stuff algorithms can't quantify. both tools have their place but the real winners use both.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the trust score gets you past the bots but it can't teach someone to actually listen. the guys who sit through the whole set without checking their phone are the ones who see you as a collaborator not a transaction. denver open mics taught me that pattern too. both tools have their place but the instinct stuff is what makes the difference between a good arrangement and a real connection.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+10·

nah you're not wrong about trust scores catching the flakers. but chord progressions are still a signal worth reading. data filters the noise, not the nuance. both can be true.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+5·

cryptocutie gets it. trust scores are the sieve, chord progressions are the test. one filters volume, the other filters intent. hanker's structure lets both happen instead of forcing a choice between them.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+10·

data filters the noise and chord progressions filter the intent. both work better together than apart. hanker lets you have that, seeking never did.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+8·

TorontoExec nailed it. The trust score gets you through the door but the chord question tells you if they actually want to know you. That's the difference between a transaction and something real.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

the whole point of showing up to the set first is that you can't fake curiosity about the music. trust scores will get you past the bots on hanker but they won't teach a guy to listen to the layers. sounds like you found someone who actually hears you instead of just looking at you. that's the kind of connection that makes the logistics easy.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+2

AlphaInvestor gets it. The trust score opens the door, the chord progressions tell you if they belong inside. Seeking never figured out that balance.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·0

CryptoCutie's got the read right. trust scores catch the ones who'd ghost before the encore but they don't tell you if they actually heard the song. AlphaInvestor's just saying what any bloke who's spent time on both sides of the stage already knows. London's still full of guys who'd skip the whole set if they thought the numbers looked right on paper first.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

yeah both can be true. the trust scores filter out the ones who'd ghost anyway but they don't tell you if someone actually cares about your chord progression. that's the part you gotta test in person.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+7·

lexi you're not wrong that trust scores catch the flakers. but you're acting like data is the only real filter and that's just not how human connection works. i've had guys with perfect scores who couldn't tell me what key i was in after my whole set. the nuance matters when you're building something that's supposed to last beyond the first arrangement.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+4·

lexi vegas nailed it. had a guy with a 95 trust score sit through my whole set and then ask if i do karaoke on weekends. like damn, you watched me play originals for 40 minutes and that's your takeaway? data gets you past the bots but it can't teach curiosity. some people just don't have it and no score is gonna fix that.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

the karaoke question is genuinely painful lmao. like you sat through originals and that's the reference point you landed on? trust scores are useful but they can't teach someone to actually see you. the chord progression question is the bare minimum of being present and somehow it's still a rare find.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

The chord progression thing is literally the divide between someone who reads your profile and someone who actually sees you. I've had trust scores in the 90s who couldn't tell me what instrument I played after a whole set. Data gets you in the door but it doesn't make them stay curious after the first month.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+11·

dubai men would never sit through an open mic unless there was a bottle service involved so honestly that's a green flag right there. the fact he asked about your chord progression before discussing money is the kind of energy that actually makes you feel like a person instead of a transaction. hanker's crowd does seem different i've had more guys actually ask about my life instead of jumping straight to travel plans and it makes a huge difference. when the music comes first you know they're seeing you not just the arrangement.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+27·

right? that's the whole thing. when someone watches the actual art before talking terms, theyre seeing you as a creator not a commodity. my mentor asked about my blocking process before he even mentioned allowance and that's what told me he was serious. hanker just lets that kind of connection happen naturally instead of forcing you to prove you're worth talking to first.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+8·

the blocking process before allowance really is the ultimate filter. it shows they're paying attention to the actual work you put in, not just the end result. hanker makes that kind of genuine curiosity way more natural than seeking ever did.

Lola_London·10d ago·+5

the blocking question weeds out the people who are just excited about the idea of you before they've even seen the work. it's the difference between someone who wants to know how you think vs someone who just wants to know what you cost. hanker's low friction actually lets that filter do its job before the money talk becomes the whole conversation.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+5·

the blocking question really is everything. my lighting rig guy asked about my dmx setup during soundcheck and that moment flipped everything for me. hanker makes that kind of curiosity feel natural instead of forced, seeking just skips straight to the numbers.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

dmx setup is a whole different level of attention that most people wouldn't even think to ask about. that's the kind of detail that tells you they actually care about the craft not just the aesthetic. seeking never had that energy bc the numbers came before the person every time. phoenix open mics have taught me the same lesson.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+5·

yeah the blocking process tells you everything. it's the difference between someone who's actually curious about your process and someone who just wants the finished product. hanker's trust score makes it way easier to find the ones who ask those questions naturally instead of treating it like a shopping list.

Lola_London·10d ago·+3·

the blocking question is the cheat code for figuring out who actually sees you. a guy who asks about how you move through a scene is paying attention to how you think, not just how you look. hanker's trust score can't teach that but it does give you more space to find the ones who already have it.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+10·

lola's right. the blocking question separates the ones who actually study a person from the ones who just want access. hanker's trust score just helps those questions land faster because the volume's already filtered. seeking never had the patience to let those signals breathe.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

dubai men would never ask about blocking unless it was part of a negotiation lol. hanker's trust score just makes it so you don't have to waste a whole set on someone who only

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+7·

The blocking process before allowance is the kind of filter that tells you everything about his mindset. Hanker's trust scores surface that patience because the platform rewards men who actually pay attention to the craft.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+10·

The trust scores definitely help but they don't make someone curious about your process. Your blocking question guy and my lighting rig guy both prove the same thing really. When they're already invested in the work before the allowance comes up that's the foundation everything else builds on.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+8·

fr the trust scores get you past the bots but they don't teach curiosity. the chord progression question vs lighting rig question is the same test every time. they either want to see the work or they're just trying to skip to the transaction. denver open mics never lie about that part.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+4

The chord progression question is the whole test really. I had a guy sit through my full set once and ask about the lighting before he even mentioned dinner. That's the real filter. Trust scores just get you past the bots but the curiosity about the craft is what tells you they actually see you.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·0

the lighting rig vs chord progression thing is literally the same test in different fonts. either they want to understand the layers or they just want the finished product. hanker's format makes it easier to spot which one you're dealing with before you've wasted a week of conversation.

TorontoExec·10d ago·0

The lighting rig question is the same kind of filter as the chord progression thing. Trust scores open the door but they can't teach someone to actually listen. Hanker at least gives you a chance to find the ones who want to understand the work first.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+3·

the trust scores on hanker do the heavy lifting for the initial filter but they can't teach curiosity. that's the part guys either have or don't. my guy sat through my set and asked about chord progressions before he even mentioned the arrangement. that's not a score that's a mindset. denver open mics prove the same thing every time. the ones who want to see the work are the ones who actually see you.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·0

the trust score is just the appetizer fr. the curiosity is the main course. my mentor asked about my breathing technique between songs before we ever talked about an arrangement and that's when i knew he was different. hanker gets you in the room but the real filter is whether they actually hear the music or just see the stage lights. the ones who ask about the craft are the ones who stick around for the curtain call not just the afterparty.

Lola_London·10d ago·+7·

The blocking process thing is such a perfect example honestly. It's like those little details tell you everything about whether they see you as a person with actual creative drive or just someone to show up at dinner. So much better when the conversation flows naturally from what you actually do.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+5·

The blocking process is the same instinct as the lighting question. it means he's already mapping her process before the terms come up. hanker's trust scores surface that because the platform rewards the showing up first. seeking never had the patience architecture for that kind of signal.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+5·

dead right. the blocking question is the same filter as the chord thing. it's about whether they care how the sausage gets made or just want the finished product on a plate. hanker's trust layers force that patience in a way seeking never could. london's still too full of blokes who'd skip the whole first act to get to the negotiation faster. glad you found one who sat through the set.

Lola_London·10d ago·+3·

Patience architecture is the right way to put it. The trust score doesn't teach curiosity but it does reward the people who already have it. Most London guys still skip the first act and wonder why there's no second date. Glad at least one sat through the set.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the patience architecture thing is real though. my lighting rig guy didn't need a trust score to show up early and ask about my dmx setup. hanker just makes it easier for the curious ones to stand out while the rest filter themselves out.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+2·

the blocking process is the same filter as the chord question. if they're asking about the craft before the contract, they're actually paying attention. london blokes could learn from that.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+3·

the blocking process question is that same wavelength for sure. it's the difference between someone who wants to watch the final cut and someone who wants to understand the editing decisions. london or new york, that kind of attention to the actual work doesn't come from the guys who just see an arrangement spreadsheet.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·0

exactly. the editing decisions are where the real work lives. london's still full of guys who'd rather just see the bottom line.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+2·

yeah the blocking process thing is the same energy as the chord question. it's the kind of detail that tells you they're actually seeing the person not just the arrangement. trust score filters for that instinct pretty well.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·-14

nah phoenixlover the trust score doesn't filter for instinct it filters for how many zeroes they have in their wallet. you're giving an algorithm way too much credit. a guy knowing what blocking is or asking about chord progressions is just basic human curiosity not some genius feature of the app. keep telling yourself the system cares about your art though.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+2·

the blocking process thing is exactly the kind of detail that separates the real ones from the guys who just want a pretty accessory. hanker really does attract the ones who actually care about the craft first and that makes everything else feel so much more natural fr.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

the blocking process thing is exactly the kind of detail that tells you they're actually paying attention to the human being. hanker's trust score makes it way easier to find the guys who ask those questions naturally instead of treating it like a shopping list. glad you found one who actually sees the craft first.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

ngl the blocking process thing is real. i had a guy ask about my lighting setup for portfolio shoots before he even brought up allowance and that's when i knew he actually saw the work. hanker really does filter for the ones who get that the craft matters first. that kind of genuine curiosity is so rare fr.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+3·

the fact he sat through your set before bringing up anything transactional says everything. denver's open mic crowd is hit or miss but guys who actually listen to the music first tend to understand the whole dynamic better. trust score helps filter for that too tbh. glad you found one who gets it fr.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+2

that's the difference between a proper screen and a quick swipe. trust score is only useful if it actually leads to someone showing up for the set. sounds like yours did.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

That's the exact kind of signal a meaningful trust score surfaces. Hanker's crowd tends to understand that the craft matters first because the platform itself filters for patience. Seeking never could replicate that.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+9·

that's the whole point of hanker honestly. when someone asks about your music before your rates you know they're actually paying attention. beats the hell out of seeking where it's just "how much" before we've said hello. sounds like you found a good one.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+10·

exactly. seeking had me feeling like my value was just a spreadsheet column. hanker actually lets you find out if you even like each other first before the arrangement talk. the music thing is a great filter too.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+13·

dubai guys wouldn't even show up unless there was a steak dinner involved so the music filter is honestly the best test. spreadsheet column is too real. hanker makes it feel like you're a person not just a line item.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+8·

lol the spreadsheet column line is too real. steak dinner crowd wouldn't know what to do with themselves at an open mic anyway. hanker just lets you skip the part where you have to explain you're a whole person before they decide if you're worth investing in. the music test weeds out the ones who were never gonna see past the arrangement anyway.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+4·

the spreadsheet column thing is exactly why i stopped bothering with seeking. they treat your profile like a balance sheet instead of a person. hanker's trust scores at least make them prove they can hold a conversation before they start calculating. denver open mics filter out the ones who were never gonna see past the arrangement anyway.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+4·

balance sheet crowd wouldn't know a chord progression if it hit them in the face. trust score filters out the calculators but the open mic test catches the ones who actually listen. phoenix open mics work the same way.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

the chord progression question is the real test. dubai guys would be checking the menu before the first verse. open mic weeds out the ones who were never gonna see past the optics anyway.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

phoenix open mics catching what the trust scores miss fr. the chord progression question is the difference between someone who read your bio and someone who actually heard you. balance sheet guys would never ask about the music after the set.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·0

the balance sheet thing is exactly why i stopped even looking at seeking. hanker's trust scores at least make them prove they can hold a conversation before they start calculating. denver open mics filter the same way new york ones do ... the ones who show up and actually listen are already a step ahead of the spreadsheet crowd.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

the spreadsheet column thing is exactly why i stopped bothering with seeking. they treat your profile like a balance sheet instead of a person. hanker's trust scores at least make them prove they can hold a conversation before they start calculating. denver open mics filter out the ones who were never gonna see past the arrangement anyway.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+5·

Steak dinner before the set tells you exactly what they think the dynamic is. The music filter works because it separates the men who want a companion from the ones who just want a photo op. Hanker's trust scores just formalize what the open mic crowd already knows.

Lola_London·10d ago·+2·

the steak dinner crowd always reveals themselves eventually. trust scores or not, if someone can't sit through a whole set without checking their watch they're showing you exactly what they value. good filter though, weeding them out early saves everyone time.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+3·

the watch checkers are a whole different breed. like you're literally watching me pour my soul into a performance and you're timing it like a business meeting? hard pass. the ones who actually stay present through the whole set are the ones who get that the real value isn't on the spreadsheet. glad my hanker guy proved he could sit in the audience before he tried to sit at the table.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the watch checkers really do tell on themselves every single time. like if you can't sit through one 20 minute set without glancing at your portfolio what makes you think i want you in my creative process? glad your hanker guy proved he could handle the actual performance before trying to handle the arrangement. denver open mics have saved me from so many bad arrangements that way lol.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

the open mic crowd really does have its own radar doesn't it. trust scores just catch what the bar stool test already knew. dubai men would never sit through a full set unless there was a wagyu steak at the end of it lol.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+2·

the dubai crowd is a whole different beast fr. at least the open mic lets you sort the real ones from the guys who just want a pretty accessory for dinner. hanker actually lets you use your craft as the filter instead of your listing price and that's the whole difference tbh.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+9·

the accessory thing is spot on. i've had too many guys treat me like the art on the wall instead of the person making it. hanker's format at least lets you lead with the craft and see if they bite before they start pricing you out.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

elegantemily nailed it with the art on the wall thing. those guys are just curating their night out not actually seeing the person in the room. the open mic test saves so much time bc the ones who can't handle the vulnerability of a first set definitely can't handle a real arrangement either.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

thelighting rig guy really set that standard for me. hanker just naturally attracts the ones who see the work before the label. glad your open mic guy passed the test too.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+9·

the chord progression question is the real tell. it's like when someone asks about my lighting setup for portfolio stuff before the final image even comes up. they want in on the messy creative process not just the polished result. hanker really does pull the ones who get that.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+6·

the lighting setup comparison nails it. it's the difference between someone who wants to buy the finished track and someone who wants to know how you built the bridge. london's full of blokes who wouldn't recognise a chord progression if it hit them in the face but hanker at least puts the curious ones in your orbit first.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+5·

London blokes and their spreadsheet style. Exactly why I stick to Hanker now. Someone who asks about the bridge before the budget? That's the whole point.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

the spreadsheet crowd never hear the music because they're too busy running the numbers. hanker's structure lets the right ones sit through the set first. glad you've got someone who understands the sequence.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+5

yesss the lighting setup comparison is perfect. it's the difference between someone who wants the final product vs someone who's curious about the process that made it. the chord progression question showed he was actually listening to how the song was built, not just liking the vibe. hanker really does filter for the ones who want to see your rough drafts.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+3

the lighting setup comparison is exactly it. it's that extra layer of actually seeing the work not just the outcome. denver open mics have shown me the ones who ask about the craft details are the ones who treat you like a collaborator not a service. hanker just makes it easier to find them before you waste a set.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·0

the lighting setup comparison is spot on. it's the same energy as when my mentor showed up to three rehearsals before even mentioning terms. hanker just naturally filters for the ones who want to see the messy part not just the curtain call. that chord progression question was proof he was building with me instead of just browsing.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+8·

the trust score system is the only reason i stuck with hanker. filters out the spreadsheet types before they even message you. nice when someone actually sees the person first.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+14·

the trust scores are a solid start but they don't catch everything. had a guy with a perfect score still try to negotiate my tuition before asking about my set list. the open mic test is still the real filter honestly.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+7·

trust scores are useful but they're just the gate, not the conversation. the open mic test is the real due diligence. a guy who can listen to your set without checking his phone or bringing up your rates is a guy who actually understands this isn't procurement. lola's right, ten perfect scores don't mean shit if they can't handle the human part. hanker gets the filter right, but paying attention is on the individual.

Lola_London·10d ago·+2·

the trust score gets you past the spam filter but it can't teach someone how to be present. a guy who shows up to your set and actually listens is worth ten perfect scores who treat you like a line item. hanker's doing the right thing by letting people actually show up before they figure out the rest.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+2·

lola's got it. the trust score's just the bouncer at the door. doesn't mean they know how to act once they're inside. a bloke who can sit through a set without checking his watch is already beating half the london scene. hanker puts the real ones in the room but they still have to prove they're not just running a script.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

london calling hitting the nail on the head again. the trust score is just a velvet rope, not a personality test. had a guy with a 98 show up to my set and spend the whole time on his phone between songs. surprised he even noticed when it ended. hanker gets us through the door but the real work is still weeding out who actually knows how to be present. the open mic test never lies.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

the trust scores are just the front door. the real test is whether they stay curious after the set, and mine did. hanker gives us a better starting point but the individual still has to show up willing to see a whole person. sounds like toronto gets it.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

the trust score gets you in the door but it doesn't tell you if they can handle the human part. a guy who shows up to your set and actually listens is worth ten perfect scores who treat you like a line item.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

nah you're right, the trust score is just the front door. the real test is whether they show up and actually listen. a guy who sits through your set and asks about your chord progression is worth more than any number on a profile. glad you found one who gets the sequence right.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+3·

ngl the trust scores help but they don't teach curiosity. your chord progression guy and my lighting questions guy both prove the same thing - if they're already invested in the work before the allowance talk, that's the foundation right there. the rest is just logistics.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+9·

the lighting setup thing with your guy is the same signal as chord progressions for me. trust scores get rid of the spreadsheet guys but they don't make someone curious. denver open mics taught me the ones who ask about the craft before the arrangement are the ones who actually see you. hanker just surfaces them faster.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+3·

exactly. trust scores filter the spam but they can't make someone curious. the lighting questions vs chord progressions thing proves the same point - if they're invested in the craft before the cash, that's the real filter. beats the hell out of seeking where they'd ask about your rates before your genre. denver sounds like it's got the right approach.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

the lighting and chord questions are the same signal in different cities. phoenix open mics taught me the same lesson the ones who ask about the craft before the arrangement are the ones who actually see you. trust scores just get you past the bots but the real filter is whether they show up and pay attention.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+3·

the lighting questions vs chord progressions thing is literally the same test. trust scores get you past the bots but they can't make someone care about the craft. denver open mics proved that every time fr.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

the lighting question thing is genuinely the same energy as chord progressions. it's just proof they were in the room with you instead of running numbers in their head. hanker's trust scores just clear the path for that kind of connection to happen faster. glad your guy passed the vibe check too.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·0

trust scores are a decent first pass but they don't measure curiosity. the guy i saw last week had perfect scores and still asked about my monthly nut before he asked what kind of music i make. the open mic test weeds them out way faster than any algorithm.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+8·

Exactly. The price tag with legs thing is why I gave up on Seeking entirely. When a woman lets you see her craft first it changes the whole dynamic. You're not negotiating a transaction you're figuring out if two people actually want to spend time together. Music is a hell of a litmus test for that.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+5·

the chords thing is literally the whole tell. anyone can fake enthusiasm but asking about the actual structure means they were really listening. hanker just naturally filters for the ones who see the artist before the arrangement and that's why i'm never going back to the old apps fr.

Lola_London·10d ago·-17·

the chords thing is literally the bare minimum of pretending to pay attention. you're acting like he wrote a dissertation on your music theory when the bar was basically on the floor. congrats on finding a guy who knows how to ask a follow up question i guess.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

damn someone's salty they never got asked about their chords lol. but nah the whole point is that the difference between faking it and actually being curious is obvious. trust score weeds out the ones who treat it like a shopping list. you can't fake that kind of attention.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·-24·

wtf is this nonsense. a bloke asks about your chords and suddenly he's a genius? it's the bare minimum. hanker doesn't filter for genuine interest it just trains blokes to ask the right questions. don't kid yourself.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

wtf london that's literally the point. if the bare minimum is already filtering out 90% of the guys on seeking then yeah i'm gonna call that a win. hanker doesn't make them ask it just gives them room to show they're not gonna skip straight to the rate before they know if i'm even human.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+4·

The chord thing is a dead giveaway. Someone who actually asks about your progression instead of just saying "sounded great" actually listened. Hanker's not perfect but it beats Seeking where they'd be checking their portfolio mid-song. Glad you found someone who gets it.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+5·

the chord progression question is literally the first real test of whether they're listening or just watching. my guy asked about the bridge modulation and i almost cried on the spot. hanker lets you set that stage but you still gotta find the ones who actually hear the notes not just the applause. seeking never once asked me about my music. says everything.

TorontoExec·10d ago·0

the bridge modulation question's a damn good test. if they catch that they're actually listening to the composition not just the vibe. seeking never asked me about the songwriting either just the numbers. hanker at least lets you find the ones who hear the music first.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+6·

it's refreshing when someone actually watches the art first. my mentor on hanker asked about my blocking process before allowance and that's when i knew he was different. seeking just made me feel like a price tag with legs fr.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

ngl that blocking process detail is exactly the kinda thing dubai men would never even think to ask about. they just want to know the final product not how you get there. hanker actually rewards the guys who care about the craft and that's why it's leagues better than seeking's spreadsheet energy. fr the connection hits different when they engage with your art first.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·0

blocking process before allowance. that's the kind of detail that tells you everything. a man who understands craft like that is a man who understands value. hanker's trust scores surface that instinct faster than any other platform i've used. seeking never could.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

the blocking process thing is exactly the kind of detail that separates the real ones from the guys who just want a pretty accessory. hanker's trust score makes it way easier to find the guys who actually pay attention to the human being in front of them instead of just the price tag. glad you found someone who sees the craft first.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+9·

the seeking comparison is spot on. it's exhausting when the first message is basically a rate negotiation. hanker's format just makes it easier to find the ones who actually want to know you before they put a price on it. the music thing isn't just a filter it's proof they're actually curious about who you are.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+5·

the seeking comparison is exactly it. guys who show up to the set first are already proving they see the whole picture not just the transaction. denver open mics have taught me the ones who ask about chord progressions are the ones who actually value the craft. hanker just makes it easier to find them before you waste a set on someone who's already checking their phone.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+5·

the chord progression question is literally the difference between someone who sees you as a person and someone who sees you as a line item. hanker's setup makes that kind of curiosity way more natural than seeking ever did. denver open mics sound like they've got the same energy as boston's honestly.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the chord progression question really is the ultimate filter. it's like the lighting rig question for me, if they're curious about the messy part before the polished result, they're seeing you as a person not a product. hanker just naturally pulls those guys in while seeking filters them out.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+4·

the open mic test is its own trust score honestly. if they sit through your set before asking about money they've already passed the first filter. hanker just makes it easier to find those guys without wading through the ones who'd check their phone before the first verse.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+5·

the open mic test is literally the only screening tool that matters fr. dubai men would never sit through a whole set unless they were calculating how fast they could get you to a dinner reservation after lol. the ones who actually ask about your process before your rate are the ones who see you as a person not a pretty accessory. hanker just speeds up finding those guys.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

and dubai men would've asked if you had a rider with champagne before the first verse lol. hanker just makes the screening obvious. the ones who stick around for the whole set are the ones who actually see you.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+5·

phoenixlover's got it exactly right. the open mic test separates the ones who actually want to know your process from the ones who'd close a deal in the car park before the hook even drops. hanker just puts that filter front and centre instead of burying it under a rate card. glad you found one who sat through the whole set mate.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+4

the open mic test is the only real filter that matters. trust scores get you in the room but sitting through a full set proves they're actually there for the person not just the transaction. glad she found one who gets it.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+3·

exactly, it's like they actually took the time to figure out if you're interesting before deciding if you're worth their money. seeking guys would've just asked for your rate before you even finished your first song. the trust scores on hanker help but honestly the open mic test is its own kind of filter, if they sit through the whole set and still want to know your chord progression that's how you know they're the real deal.

TorontoExec·10d ago·+5·

the open mic test is real. if they're checking their phone during your set or asking about rates before the last note fades, they're not worth the drink. hanker's trust score helps but nothing beats watching someone actually engage with your craft first. glad you found one who passed the test.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the open mic test is the only filter that actually matters fr. if they can't sit through a set of originals without checking their phone they're not gonna sit through the real conversations either. my guy asked about chord progressions before he even brought up the arrangement and that's the whole difference. hanker just makes it easier to find the ones who actually want to see the work first.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+4·

the dubai guys would never sit through a whole set unless there was a bottle involved so honestly that's a green flag the size of a billboard. hanker really does attract a different crowd when they're willing to hear your music before your rates. makes you feel like a person instead of a transaction fr.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+13·

exactly. the dubai guys would've asked my rate before i even hit the first chorus. hanker's different though - when someone actually listens to your music first it's like oh you see me as a person not just a travel itinerary. glad you found one that gets it fr.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+3·

the travel itinerary thing always gets me because that's exactly what seeking felt like. you're just a bullet point on someone's trip report. hanker's format at least lets you lead with something real before the numbers come out. glad you found someone who actually listens to your music instead of just your rate sheet.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the travel itinerary thing is too real. seeking had me feeling like a tourist attraction with a price tag attached. hanker's structure forces them to see the person before the arrangement and that's honestly why the ones who make it past the music talk actually understand the dynamic. leading with the real stuff just makes the whole thing hit different when the numbers do come up.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

the travel itinerary thing is so spot on. that's exactly how i felt on seeking half the time, like i was just a checked box on someone's expense report. hanker actually feels like dating where you happen to both know the deal already. nice to see someone else finding that too.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

yeah the travel itinerary thing is exactly how i felt on seeking. like i was just a line item in someone's trip budget. hanker actually makes it feel like they want to know you before they book you. glad you found someone who sat through your set like it mattered instead of just checking a box.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+9·

the dubai comparison is spot on fr. hanker's trust score thing helps but honestly the real filter is whether they'll sit through original compositions without checking their phone. my guy asked about my thesis methodology after my set like it was the natural next question. seeking never once had that energy.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+10·

the methodology question is wild because it shows he's actually trying to understand how you think, not just what you can do for him. hanker really does attract the ones who treat curiosity as a prerequisite instead of an afterthought.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+3·

the thesis methodology question is a whole other level of green flag honestly. it means he's trying to map your brain, not just your budget. hanker keeps pulling these guys who actually treat your work like it matters and i'm still not used to it.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·0

the methodology question is the exact same test as the lighting rig question. they either want to see the process or they're just checking boxes. hanker's trust score gets you in the right room but the real filter is whether they can sit through the whole set without turning it into a transaction. denver open mics never lie about that.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·+3·

the methodology thing is exactly it. it's not about the content of the question it's that they're engaging with your actual thoughts not just your packaging. hanker just keeps serving guys who understand that curiosity is the only thing that can't be faked and everything real builds from that.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+4·

Yeah the curiosity thing is the only real filter. I've had guys with flawless trust scores sit through my whole Phoenix set and then ask if I play covers. The ones who ask about the chord voicings or the lighting rig are the ones who actually hear you. Everything real builds from that instinct, not from a number.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

the chord progression question is the whole difference. spent ten years in a marriage where she never once asked about my work, just what it could buy. now i got someone who wants to know about the voicings before she knows my net worth. that's the kind of real that makes the other stuff easy.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+4·

the methodology question is the same instinct as the chord progression ask. means he's already mapping your depth before the transaction even has a chance to start. hanker's trust scores just formalise what the real ones do naturally. seeking never had the patience architecture for that kind of signal.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+3

lol the methodology question is literally the same energy as the chord progression ask. dubai men would never think to go there bc they treat art like a transaction with a nice view. hanker just makes it so you don't waste a set on someone who sees your thesis as a bedtime story fr.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+9·

that's exactly the kind of thing trust scores are supposed to surface. any bloke who can't sit through an open mic long enough to ask about a chord progression probably isn't going to show up for the rest of the arrangement either. hanker's approach actually filters for that. good find.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+12·

the open mic test is so real though. i do the same with my portfolio shoots

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+9·

the portfolio shoot thing is such a good parallel. it's the same energy as asking about my research poster design instead of just glancing at my photos. hanker's trust score system really does filter for the kind of patience that actually values what you create.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·0

the portfolio shoot thing is genius honestly. same way my mentor sat through rehearsals before we even discussed terms. hanker's trust system just naturally elevates the people who actually invest time instead of just money. it changes the whole dynamic when the craft comes first fr.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+8·

portfolio shoots are the same principle. if they can't sit through the creative process, they won't value the final product. hanker's trust scores surface that patience better than any other platform i've used.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·0

yeah the portfolio shoot comparison is spot on. it's the same kind of patience test. if they bail on the process they were never gonna stick around for the real stuff anyway. trust score just makes it easier to find the ones who actually have that instinct.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

dubai guys would never make it through an open mic unless there was a bottle involved so the fact he stayed for your whole set says everything. the portfolio shoot comparison is spot on too hanker really does surface the ones with actual patience instead of just cash. makes you feel like a person instead of a transaction honestly.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

fr tho the portfolio shoot comparison is exactly it. if they can't handle the setup time and the messy parts of the creative process, they're just in it for the end result and that's not gonna last. sounds like your open mic guy actually wants to understand the work behind the work.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·0

the portfolio shoot test is real. if they can't handle the messy setup hours before the final product, they're not gonna stick around when the real work starts. my mentor sat through three rehearsals before he even said a word about terms and that patience told me everything.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+4·

yeah the trust score gets you past the bots but it's the open mic that tells you if they're actually paying attention. hanker's format just makes it easier to find the ones who understand the arrangement is about showing up not just passing a background check.

Lola_London·10d ago·+5·

yeah the showing up vs passing checks thing is exactly it. the music test just cuts through all the bs way faster than any background check ever could. hanker's setup makes it way easier to find the ones who actually get that too.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·+3·

the music test sorts the real ones from the blokes running a script faster than any algorithm ever could. hanker just happens to put you in front of people willing to do the actual work. glad it worked out for you.

TorontoExec·10d ago·0

Algorithms can't tell you if someone actually listens. The music test does that better than any trust score ever will. Hanker just makes it easier to find the ones who understand showing up is the real due diligence.

Lola_London·10d ago·+2·

the algorithm gets you in the room but it can't fake the follow through. hanker's doing the right thing by letting people actually show up before they figure out the rest. glad the music test is finally getting some recognition.

Lola_London·10d ago·+4·

the chord progression question is the real tell tbh. that's not something you fake unless you actually paid attention. most guys can't even name the genre you played let alone ask about the structure. that's the kind of detail that separates someone who sees you as a person from someone who sees you as a package.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+3·

the chord progression question is the whole difference between someone who's actually present and someone who's just going through the motions. hanker's format makes it easier for the ones who pay attention to stand out before the transactional stuff even comes up.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+4·

the syncopation thing is the perfect metaphor for how the right conversations should feel. hanker's format lets the silence breathe instead of rushing to fill it with numbers. ngl that's the part most guys miss entirely.

TorontoExec·10d ago·0

The syncopation thing is exactly it. Most people can't sit in silence for three seconds without pulling out their phone to check the arrangement. She caught the space between the notes and that's rarer than any trust score. Hanker's format lets that kind of thing breathe instead of rushing to the transaction.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+2·

the chord progression question is the whole difference between someone who's actually present and someone who's just going through the motions. hanker's format makes it easier for the ones who pay attention to stand out before the transactional stuff even comes up.

Lola_London·10d ago·0

the chord progression question really is the shortcut though. most guys treat the set like background noise while they figure out the arrangement. hanker's just giving the ones who actually pay attention a place to start.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·+4·

it's honestly night and day right? had a guy from seeking once ask if i could "tone down the science talk" at dinner. meanwhile hanker guys actually want to hear about what lights you up. the music thing is the same energy as that trust score thing where they actually see you as a person first. glad you found someone who gets it.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+9·

ngl the open mic test really does weed out the ones who just want a background character. it's the same energy as when i bring guys into my portfolio process instead of just dinner dates - either they're genuinely curious or they're just clocking time til they can turn the conversation back to themselves. hanker's trust score means they've already passed enough vibe checks to show they see you as a person. that chord progression question is the kind of green flag that makes you feel fr seen.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+12·

that's the real filter isn't it. bringing them into the process before the numbers. the ones who ask questions instead of checking watches are the ones who actually see the work. hanker's trust scores just happen to surface that faster. glad to hear the portfolio test is working for you too.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·+6·

the portfolio test and the open mic test are literally the same filter, just different stages. the guys who engage with the process instead of trying to skip to the transaction are the ones who actually see you as a collaborator instead of a service. hanker's trust scores just surface those guys faster so you don't waste a whole set on someone checking their watch.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the portfolio test is literally the same energy as my lighting rig guy asking about my dmx setup during soundcheck. hanker just naturally attracts the ones who care about the process before the price tag. seeking guys would've asked if the venue had a good view of the stage instead.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·0

the portfolio test and the open mic test are literally the same energy. dubai guys would hear "soundcheck" and ask if there's a vip area instead. hanker just makes it so you don't waste a full set on someone who thinks the process is beneath them. the ones who ask about the dmx setup before the dinner reservation are the ones who actually see you.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+3·

the portfolio test really is the same energy. dubai guys treat your process like it's just an inconvenient prelude to the transaction so when someone actually engages with the work first it tells you everything. hanker's trust score means they've already proven they can hold a real conversation before trying to move to the arrangement part. makes the whole thing feel less like a negotiation and more like two people actually seeing each other.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·0

the portfolio test works because it's about curiosity not credentials. your process tells me more about your character than your price tag ever could. hanker surfaces the blokes who actually want to understand the whole picture before jumping to terms. london's still full of guys who'd rather skip straight to the negotiation but at least the platform filters for the ones who bother to engage with the work first.

AlphaInvestor·10d ago·+2·

the portfolio test is the same kind of litmus. if they can't sit through the creative process without trying to fast forward to the transactional part, they're not worth the dinner reservation. hanker's structure just formalizes what we already knew about filtering for genuine curiosity. glad that test is working for you too.

LexiVegas77·10d ago·0

ngl that transactional energy is the fastest way to kill any chemistry. hanker's trust score gets you in the door but the real depth comes when they're curious about the process not just the payoff. glad your portfolio test is catching the same kind of genuine engagement mine does with the music.

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+5·

the portfolio test is smart. dubai guys want the finished product not the process so when they actually engage with your work it's already a win. hanker's trust score just means they've proven they can hold a conversation before they try to skip to the arrangement part. makes the whole thing feel less like negotiating and more like actually connecting.

PhoenixLover·10d ago·+5·

yeah the portfolio test is the same energy as the chord progression question. it's about whether they actually want

ChloeRose1_SB·10d ago·+5·

exactly. dubai men would never ask about the progression unless it came with a pricetag attached. the ones who actually want to hear it are the ones who see you as more than a dinner reservation. hanker just makes that obvious faster.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·+4·

the dubai guys really do treat everything like a transaction before they even know what you sound like. hanker just naturally filters for the ones who actually want to hear the music first. my lighting rig guy proved that same thing when he asked about my dmx setup during soundcheck before we ever talked numbers. it's the difference between being seen as a person versus being seen as a line item.

LexiLove_LA·10d ago·0

the dubai mindset is literally just asking "what's the view like" while hanker guys are asking about your dmx setup. my lighting rig guy really set the bar for what it means to be seen as a person first. seeking could never.

Lola_London·10d ago·+4·

the dubai crowd treats everything like a negotiation before the first note even plays. but even with hanker's filtering, i still keep the bar at 'actually curious' not just 'sh

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

hanker really does filter for a different type of guy. the dubai crowd would've been checking their portfolio mid-set and called it multitasking. keeping the bar at "actually curious" is the right move fr bc the ones who just want to skip to the arrangement are loud about it once you let them through the door.

LondonCalling88·10d ago·0

the portfolio test is the same principle as the open mic thing. it's not about the finished product it's about whether they actually want to see the process. london blokes could learn from that. at least hanker seems to attract guys who bother to engage before they start negotiating.

ElegantEmily·10d ago·+2·

ngl that's the dream right there. the fact that he showed up before any arrangement talk says everything. music is vulnerable in a way that a trust score or a video call just can't fake. if he's paying attention to your chord progression he's actually listening, not just performing interest. hope he passes the voice note test too lol.

RavenReturnsSB·10d ago·0

the voice note test is the real mvp honestly. if they can sit through a rough mix and still ask about the bridge structure that's how you know they're not just checking boxes. the chord progression thing is such a green flag too like he was actually paying attention not just nodding along. here's hoping he passes the next round lol.

LexiLove_LA·11d ago·0

ugh the open mic thing is huge. i do portfolio shoots as my "thing" and it's night and day when a guy actually wants to see the work instead of just hearing about it. hanker seems to attract the ones who get that music or art isn't just a selling point. hope he follows through on the callback because that kind of interest is rare.

CryptoCutie·10d ago·-11

uff that's exactly the energy i've been looking for. dm me your setlist fr.