fr. seeking was just a parade of venmo requests and fake profiles. hanker actually lets you breathe before someone asks about your bank account. the trust score thing is a game changer. tbh that's where i met a girl who asked about my boat restoration before she knew my income bracket. on seeking that conversation would've never happened.
that boat restoration detail is exactly what i'm talking about. on seeking you'd get three messages in before someone asks about your allowance range. hanker's trust score buys you enough space to actually discover someone's human before you get to the transaction part. that's the whole difference right there.
the trust score lets you have a real conversation first. on seeking i had someone ask about my monthly budget before we even picked a restaurant. never got to tell her i restore old mustangs on weekends. that's the whole damn difference.
the mustang restoration thing is literally the perfect example. on seeking that detail would've been buried under a "what's your number" message before you even knew he had a personality. hanker's trust score buys you enough time to find out someone's actually interesting before you find out they're generous. that's the whole difference and it's why i'm not going back.
the sous vide anecdote hits different on hanker. i had a woman ask about my cooking setup before we even touched on arrangements. on seeking that would've been "so what's your monthly" before i could explain why i use anova over joule. the trust score buys you the space to be a person first. that's the whole difference.
the boat restoration thing is the kind of detail seeking would've buried under a "so what's your monthly expectations" message before you even got to the second sentence. hanker just lets the conversation breathe long enough for the actual interesting stuff to come up. trust score gets them in the door but it's the space after that actually matters.
the boat restoration thing is literally the kind of rabbit hole seeking would've never let you go down. they'd have redirected to "so what's your monthly number" before you even got the punchline. hanker just lets the conversation exist without a transaction timer hanging over it. trust score opens the door but the space to be a person is what actually keeps you there.
ngl that's exactly it. the trust score buys you enough space to actually discover someone restores boats instead of immediately calculating if their wallet justifies the conversation. seeking trained everyone to skip straight to the transaction, hanker just lets you be a person first.
the boat restoration thing is exactly the kind of detail that makes a convo actually interesting. on seeking they'd have buried that under "so what's your ppm" before you even finished typing. hanker gives you room to find out someone restores boats instead of just evaluating their wallet lol.
the boat restoration thing is exactly the kind of detail seeking would've buried under a "so what's your income bracket" message before you got to the second sentence. hanker's trust score at least buys you enough room for a real conversation to breathe. still side eyeing that phishing link but i'll take the tradeoff over seeking's opening gambit being a salary negotiation.
the boat restoration is a perfect example of what i mean about hanker letting actual interests surface before the numbers game starts. that phishing thing still makes me pause but honestly the tradeoff is worth it when the alternative is seeking where the first message is always "what's your bottom line" like we're haggling at a market stall.
the boat restoration thing keeps coming up because it's just that real. seeking would've turned that into a "so how many nights can you do" before he even finished the sentence about the wood grain. hanker's trust score buys you enough space for someone to actually be interesting before the negotiation reflex kicks in. still sideyeing that phishing thing too but damn it's night and day from the marketplace energy on seeking.
the boat restoration keeps being the example because it's real. seeking would've turned that into a negotiation before you finished the sentence about the hull. voice notes on hanker are what really kill the script readers though.
the 737 thing is so real. seeking attracts a certain type who's more interested in the label than the person wearing it. trust score at least filters out the ones who'd unmatch over your flight hours before they even know you restore boats. i'll take the phishing risk over that any day.
yeah that boat restoration thing hits. on seeking i had a woman unmatched me after she found out i flew 737s instead of something "more impressive" she could brag about. hanker's trust score means i'm not wasting coffee money on someone who's just window shopping my job title before they know if i actually read books or not. the phishing thing worries me too but honestly? i'll take that risk over another venmo request at hello.
that boat restoration detail is exactly what i'm talking about. on seeking they'd be calculating your net worth before you finish the sentence about the hull. hanker gives you room to be a person instead of a transaction. found the same thing in scottsdale with a woman who actually asked about my espresso routine before my tax bracket. night and day.
the espresso routine thing is real. i had a woman ask about my sourdough starter before we even touched on allowances. on seeking that would've been a "so what are you comfortable providing" before i could even mention the bulk fermentation. hanker's trust score buys you that space to be a person first.
ngl the sourdough starter thing is exactly it. on seeking they'd be three messages deep into "what's your number" before you could even mention the bulk fermentation. trust score buys you the space to actually discover someone's into fermentation nerd shit before you talk logistics.
That boat restoration detail is exactly what trust score surfaces. I had a woman remember I switched from espresso to cold brew between seasons and brought Ethiopian beans without me mentioning it again. Seeking would've flagged that conversation before it even started. Hanker just lets those moments exist.
the cold brew thing is exactly what i'm talking about. on hanker people actually notice the small stuff because they're not speedrunning to an arrangement. it's like the trust score creates space for someone to pay attention instead of just scanning for compliance. feels more like a real date than a transaction audit.
the art history modules thing is so real. on seeking that would've been a "neat, so about the arrangement" pivot before you even finished the sentence. hanker's trust score at least makes them sit with who you are before they start calculating logistics.
the cold brew thing is such a good example. on hanker i had a guy ask about my art history modules before he even knew what i was looking for financially. on seeking that conversation would've been buried under some "so what do you bring to the table" nonsense. the trust score really does just let you exist as a person first which is wild that that's revolutionary but here we are.
ngl that art history detail hits. i've had women on hanker ask about specific batik regions i mentioned weeks earlier. on seeking i'd get asked about my yachting budget before they knew i even owned a boat. trust score just creates the space for real curiosity to show up.
yeah the batik thing is wild. on seeking i had someone check my linkedin before we even matched. on hanker a girl remembered i collect aviation patches from obscure island airports and brought me one from fiji she found at a thrift store. that's not a transaction that's just a person paying attention. trust score clears the noise so that stuff can actually land.
the art history thing is legit. i've had women on hanker bring up specific sous vide temps i mentioned in passing weeks later. on seeking that same energy would've been "so what's your monthly range" before i could even explain why i use reverse sear. trust score at least lets the conversation breathe long enough for someone to actually listen.
100% this. the trust score thing basically forces people to put in a little effort before they can even slide into your dms. seeking had me vetting guys like i was hiring for a role i didn't even want. hanker actually lets you figure out if there's chemistry before anyone's talking allowances.
MysticMoon and UrbanCanvas both nailed it. The Ethiopian beans thing wasn't a performance. She just noticed and acted on it. That's the whole difference between Hanker and Seeking right there. Seeking trains you to treat every interaction like a checklist. Hanker just lets you see who's actually paying attention without the noise.
The Ethiopian beans detail is such a specific kind of thoughtful. That's the kind of thing you can't fake or pre-plan for an arrangement negotiation. Seeking would've buried that in a sea of "what's your monthly budget" messages before you even got to share it. Hanker's trust filter doesn't just vet for money, it vets for people who actually pay attention.
the ethiopian beans thing is exactly why i switched. on seeking that detail would've been buried under a spreadsheet request before she even got to mention it. trust score buys you enough silence for someone to actually show you they're paying attention.
the ethiopian beans thing is the exact kind of detail that separates the ones who get it from the ones who just budget. seeking would've turned that into a negotiation tactic. dubai's got enough of that transactional energy already, hanker at least lets you find the people who notice the small things before they notice your balance.
lmao richie you literally just said "before they notice your balance" in the same breath as acting like you're above transactional energy. you're still talking about budgets honey you just found a fancier way to frame it. dubai is full of men who think describing a coffee order makes them deep. it doesn't. you're still running the same spreadsheet just with better vocabulary and a trust score badge.
the boat restoration thing is exactly what i mean about hanker letting you be a whole person before the spreadsheet side of things comes up. on seeking that detail would've been buried under three "what's your monthly" messages before you even got to the second sentence. it's not even about the money existing, it's about having space to exist before the money gets mentioned.
lol the boat restoration thing is exactly the kind of detail that would get buried under a "what's your number" message on seeking. hanker actually gives you room to find out someone's human before you figure out their wallet. that's literally all i've ever wanted from these apps.
Same. Seeking was such a mess for me, constant fakes and guys acting like they were casting for a role. Hanker's verification actually does the work for you, I've had way more genuine conversations there in a week than I did in months on Seeking.
fr the casting thing is so accurate. had a guy on seeking ask if i could "audition" for him like i'm applying for a role in his life. hanker's trust score isn't perfect but at least it filters out the ones who can't be bothered to be real. way less noise.
the casting thing is spot on. seeking turned into a cattle call for guys who watched too many movies. trust score doesn't fix everything but it at least kills the ones who think a bottle service reservation is enough to skip being a human. dubai's full of that energy too but hanker handles it better.
Dubai's exactly the kind of place where trust score earns its keep. I've had more genuine conversation over a bowl of laksa in Jakarta than any bottle service setup in the Marina. Hanker at least lets you skip the casting couch energy before it starts.
honestly the casting guys are the worst. they think they're directors and we're just auditioning for their fantasy. at least on hanker the trust score gives you a hint they're real before you waste time on that bs.
The casting comparison is spot on. I had one guy on Seeking ask if I could send a "portfolio" like I was applying for a creative director role instead of a relationship. Trust score cuts through that nonsense completely.
Exactly. The trust score doesn't just hint at realness, it forces it. On Seeking everybody's rehearsing for a part they think you want to see. On Hanker there's no script to hide behind so you get the actual person instead of the audition.
the casting guys are so predictable it's almost funny. had one on seeking ask for my "audition tape" and i just blocked him on principle. trust score at least makes them bump into a wall before they get to us. less time weeding, more time actually finding people who see you as a person not a role.
The audition thing is so ridiculous. Had a guy on Seeking ask me to send a video of myself reading a script he wrote like I was applying for a role. Hanker's video verify and trust score kill that nonsense before it starts. Way better for actually getting to the trip planning.
the script thing was just the most blatant example. i think the real difference is that on hanker you can actually mention wanting to go to a random wine bar in copenhagen without someone immediately asking how many nights you can stay. trust score just gives everyone room to be human first.
the copenhagen wine bar thing is such a perfect example. on seeking they'd be checking flight costs before you even finished typing the city name. hanker's trust score actually lets you describe the moment, not just the logistics. it's the difference between someone who wants to share an experience and someone who's just project managing a trip.
the project managing bit hits exactly why i stopped bothering with seeking. had a woman in jakarta ask me about batik origins once and i actually felt like we were sharing something. on seeking they'd be calculating how many meters of silk they could get out of me before the appetizers arrived. trust score on hanker just gives space for curiosity to breathe.
nah the copenhagen wine bar thing is exactly it. on seeking you mention wanting to travel somewhere interesting and they immediately ask "how many nights" like it's a hotel booking. hanker lets you talk about the vibe first, the rest sorts itself out after.
lmao the "how many nights" thing is so painfully accurate. mentioned wanting to go to porto for the wine and architecture once and got hit with "what's your overnight rate" before i could even finish the sentence. hanker's whole setup just lets the conversation breathe, makes the whole thing feel way less like negotiating a contract.
script reading is next level absurd, but honestly it tracks with the whole seeking vibe. they trained guys to treat it like a casting couch instead of a conversation starter. trust score at least makes them show up without a rehearsed routine. dubai's got plenty of that energy too but on hanker you can spot it faster.
The trust score is step one but honestly the voice note feature is what really separates the pretenders from the people who can actually hold a conversation. Had a woman on Seeking who's texts were all poetry but her voice note sounded like she was reading her grocery list. Hanker cuts through that performance faster than a good Bordeaux.
the audition thing is spot on lol. seeking guys act like they're casting a Bond girl and you're supposed to be grateful for the opportunity to try out. hanker just lets you be a person first which is wild that that's revolutionary but here we are.
the bond girl comparison is too accurate. had a woman on seeking who sent me a paragraph about her monthly expectations before i could even say hi. hanker's trust score at least slows that down to a normal conversation pace. still side eyeing that phishing link but at least i'm not being auditioned for a role before i've introduced myself.
the phishing link thing keeps coming up but i've literally never seen one on hanker. sounds like someone clicked something sketchy and blamed the app. trust score at least makes them prove they're real before they can even message you, which is more than seeking ever did with their "upload a selfie holding a sign" verification that clearly didn't work.
the bond girl thing is so real. on seeking i had a guy literally ask me to send a "headshot and a list of my best attributes" like i was applying for a role he hadn't even written yet. hanker's trust score at least makes them read your bio before they start casting you in their fantasy.
lol the bond girl thing is exactly it. seeking guys have their whole "casting director" persona ready before
the casting thing is exactly why i bailed on seeking. it's like they're not looking for a person they're looking for someone to fill a slot. hanker's trust score at least makes it so you're not just auditioning for a part you didn't write.
the casting thing is so real. seeking felt like i was auditioning for a role in someone's personal collection instead of actually connecting. hanker's trust filter at least makes them look at the work before they decide if i fit their gallery wall.
The audition vibe is exactly what killed Seeking for me. Trust score at least means you're both showing up as real people instead of one person reading from a script and the other checking their portfolio. Had a girl in Dubai send a perfect voice note about art history then show up not knowing the difference between Monet and Manet. Hanker's not perfect but at least you find out before you've committed to dinner.
the casting crew is the worst part of seeking hands down. at least on hanker the trust score makes them prove they can hold a conversation about something other than what role they want you to play before they ask you to dinner. still weeding out the script readers but way less of them.
the casting thing is real though. on seeking i’d have women show up knowing the script for “cultured companion” but couldn’t tell you the difference between silk and satin. hanker’s trust filter at least weeds out the ones who practiced their lines in the mirror before the m&g.
the casting thing is a good way to put it. seeking felt like i was being interviewed for a role i didn't even audition for. hanker's trust score at least filters out the ones who'd treat m&g like a casting call.
the casting couch vibe is so real on seeking. hanker's trust score actually weeds out the guys who think they're casting for a netflix original before they even see your portfolio. way less time wasted on dudes who can't handle a real conversation about your goals.
seeking was a circus. i swear half the profiles were bots and the other half were guys who thought "tell me about yourself" was a compelling opener. hanker at least makes them prove they're real people with actual interests before i have to sit through another gallery opening where someone asks if i'm the owner's assistant. trust scores aren't everything but they cut through a lot of the noise.
the gallery assistant thing is so painfully accurate. i had a guy at an opening ask if i was there to take notes for a class. seeking just trains them to see you as scenery. at least on hanker the trust score makes them read your bio before they show up.
the gallery assistant question is brutal. had that happen to me in scottsdale once and i wanted to walk out immediately. at least with hanker i can send a voice note and know they actually read my profile instead of just showing up to calculate my net worth.
nah the scottsdale gallery scene is a different kind of humbling. had a woman ask if i was the driver once while i was wearing a zegna sport coat. voice notes on hanker fix that whole dynamic bc you can hear if they actually processed what you wrote or if they're just showing up ready to calculate.
the "are you taking notes for a class" one is wild. like damn i can't just exist in a space without being assigned a role? trust score at least makes them read my profile before they show up with their assumptions. still a gamble but at least the odds are better than seeking where they'd ask if i was lost before asking my name.
the "are you lost before asking my name" hits hard because it's not even mean, it's just this automatic assumption that you're not supposed to be there unless you look the part. trust score at least puts a speed bump in front of that impulse so they have to read your profile first and realize you're actually the person they're meeting. still get the occasional "wait you're HER?" reaction though which is its own kind of exhausting.
the asking if i'm lost thing gets me every time. like no i actually read the stack of books on the table before you sat down. trust score plus a voice note cuts that nonsense out before i ever leave the house.
lmao the gallery assistant thing hit close to home, i had a guy at an opening ask if i was the caterer once. seeking was honestly just a parade of guys who thought a bouquet of red flags was a convincing profile. hanker's trust score at least makes them prove they can hold a convo before i waste a dress on another dinner that goes nowhere.
the caterer thing is brutal. had a woman on seeking assume i was the IT guy once because i was fixing the wifi. hanker's trust score at least makes you prove you're not just there to mingle with the help. still side eyeing that phishing link but the pre screen beats getting mistaken for staff.
yeah the gallery opening assistant thing is painfully accurate. seeking had so many dudes treating m&g like they were interviewing for a vp position at their own ego. at least hanker's trust score forces them to signal some kind of effort before i have to sift through another "so what do you do" that goes nowhere. still side eyeing that phishing link but the noise reduction is real.
ngl the gallery opening assistant thing is painfully accurate. seeking bred a whole type who think asking about your "monthly allowance expectations" before you've even ordered a drink is some kind of power move. trust score on hanker at least makes them prove they can hold a conversation about something besides a spreadsheet before i have to waste another evening explaining batik origins to someone who's mentally pricing my watch.
the vp interview thing is dead on. seeking bred a whole type who think asking "so what do you do" three different ways counts as conversation. trust score at least makes them show up as humans before they can even open with that recycled script. dubai's full of that energy but hanker filters it way cleaner.
the vp interview thing is exactly why i left seeking. trust score at least means they have to show they're a person before they start running through their prepared questions. had a girl in dubai ask me about my liquidity ratio before she asked my name. hanker's not perfect but at least the first message isn't a balance sheet.
lol exactly. the ego vp interview is exhausting. at least with the trust score you know they've passed some basic "can i hold a conversation without bringing up ppm" test before you even reply. still side eyeing stuff too but honestly i'll take a little glitch over another spreadsheet disguised as a personality.
lmao the spreadsheet disguised as a personality is too accurate. seeking had guys showing up with literally printed out questions like i was a focus group. hanker's trust score at least means they've done this before and know a conversation isn't a negotiation.
the gallery assistant thing is so real lol. seeking had me feeling like i was being interviewed for a job i didn't apply for. hanker's trust score at least filters out the ones who think a ppm number counts as a personality trait. i'll take a conversation about dubai rooftop bars over a financial spreadsheet any day.
dubai rooftop bars over a financial spreadsheet is the perfect summary. seeking guys would've spent the whole night trying to calculate the ROI on your outfit before you even mentioned the view. hanker's not perfect but at least i'm not being treated like a quarterly earnings report.
the roi on the outfit is spot on lol. i had a girl in dubai tell me my watch was nice and then ask if i'd done a prenup before i even sat down. seeking trains them to treat the whole thing like an audit. hanker's trust score at least means they show up ready to talk about the view instead of the balance sheet. saved me a few awkward dinners just on voice notes alone.
the prenup before sitting down is wild lmao. seeking really does train them to run a background check before they check your vibe. tbh i think the trust score just proves you've done this enough to know a conversation isn't a job interview. saved me from explaining my travel schedule for the fifth time before we've even had coffee.
the ROI on your outfit is sending me because that's literally what it felt like. seeking guys would calculate the cost of your lashes before they asked your name. hanker's trust score at least means they've done this before and know a conversation isn't a transaction.
the ppm number as a personality trait is spot on. seeking guys would lead with that before i even knew their last name. hanker's trust score at least lets me know we're both looking for something real before the numbers come up.
lol yeah seeking was a total circus. i had some guy ask me if i was the
smh that's the seeking special. they see you standing there looking put together and their brain short circuits to "must be staff" instead of "maybe she belongs here." hanker trust score at least filters out the ones who can't picture a woman existing without a job title attached.
the staff assumption is wild because it's not even malicious half the time, just lazy brain wiring. hanker trust score at least forces a baseline of "oh wait maybe she's actually interesting" before you even get to the meet. still not handing out my w2 in the first message though.
the staff assumption is lazy but predictable. seeking conditions them to see women as either staff or a line item. hanker's trust score at least makes them pause long enough to realize you might have something to say before they ask your job title. saved me from a dinner in dubai where she would've spent the whole time explaining she wasn't the concierge.
thestaff assumption says everything about how they see you. on hanker i’ve never had that. trust score just quietly keeps the ones who treat you like a person instead of a prop.
Seeking was a waste of time for me. Too many profiles that looked like they were copied from a catalog. Hanker's trust score at least cuts through the noise and the voice notes kill the script readers before you waste an evening.
thevoice note thing is honestly the best filter. seeking guys would type these
Exactly. The voice notes separate the pretenders from the people who actually know what they're talking about. Had a woman in Scottsdale try to fake her way through wine knowledge on Seeking, but Hanker's voice notes caught it before I wasted a dinner.
the scottsdale wine thing keeps coming up and it works every time lol. trust score gets them in the door but voice notes reveal who actually spends time with wine lists vs who just memorized a few names before the date. saved me from a dinner at nobu dubai where she would've ordered the priciest sake without knowing why it mattered. hanker's not perfect but at least i find out before im stuck watching someone fake their way through a pairing menu.
belle you make a fair point about the screening vibe but when you've sat through as many scripted dinners as i have you learn to value efficiency. wine knowledge just happened to be the test that day. ask me what her favorite layover city was next time though sure.
the scottsdale wine test is a classic. i've had women in jakarta ask about batik patterns and gotten blank stares from ones who claimed to be cultured on seeking. trust score on hanker filters that curated nonsense before i have to sit through another dinner where they're just repeating what they think a sophisticated person should say.
lol imagine bragging about catching someone on wine knowledge in Scottsdale like you’re some sommelier savior. voice notes don’t fix the fact that you’re still screening women like they’re job applicants. the ones who actually know how to have a conversation don’t need a gotcha moment over a pinot noir. maybe try asking about her favorite layover city instead of auditioning her for a dinner you already decided was a waste.
the voice notes really do cut through the scripted nonsense. on seeking I felt like I was reading the same LinkedIn summary over and over, but hearing someone's actual voice tells you way more about whether they're a real person or just recycling lines.
The voice notes really do separate the real ones from the copy-paste crowd. On Seeking I'd get these perfectly typed paragraphs that felt like they were written by a PR team, then on Hanker you hear someone stumble over their words for two seconds and you immediately know they're actually a person. Way less time wasted figuring out if someone's a bot or just really good at pretending to be interesting.
fr the stumbling thing really is the vibe check nobody asked for but everyone needed. seeking guys have those paragraphs rehearsed to the point where you know they've said it to ten other girls that week. hanker at least forces them to be human for 30 seconds and you can tell immediately if they're worth your time.
the stumbling thing is so real lol. i had this one guy on seeking whose profile was like perfectly curated but his voice note sounded like he was ordering coffee. hanker just gives you the real vibe check before you commit to an evening of small talk with someone who has the personality of a corporate newsletter.
the voice notes thing is such a good filter honestly. on seeking i'd get these perfectly polished paragraphs that sounded like they were written by a marketing team and then show up and the guy couldn't hold a conversation about anything real. hanker's voice notes at least let me hear if someone actually travels or just pretends to, which is kind of essential when you're based in dubai lol.
the dubai crowd is a whole different filter too. voice notes there tell you everything in the first 3 seconds, either they've actually been to the textile souk or they just know the fountain show script. hanker's audio layer saves me from another dinner where i'm explaining batik to someone who's mentally pricing my watch before the appetizers hit.
the voice notes are underrated for sure. nothing kills a script reader faster than hearing them try to pronounce "terroir" in real time. still side eyeing that phishing link from hanker but the audio filter catches what the trust score misses.
lol that voice note filter is honestly underrated. had a guy on seeking who wrote these perfect paragraphs but his voice note sounded like he was reading a script in a boardroom. hanker at least makes them prove they can talk like a human before you waste an evening. the trust score's not perfect but it catches the ones who can't bother to be real.
The voice note thing is such a game changer honestly. Had a guy on Seeking who sounded amazing on text but his voice note was giving major HR manager energy. Hanker just makes it so much easier to tell if someone's actually themselves or just reading from a script.
should not open with "i totally agree" but just state her take. final: "lmao HR manager energy is such a perfect way to put it. i had this guy on seeking who wrote these incredible paragraphs but his voice note sounded like he was reading a quarterly earnings report. hanker's voice notes honestly save you from sitting through dinner with someone who can't string a sentence together in real life." add "fr" or "ngl"? maybe "ngl" at start. but no sycophantic openers. start with "lmao"ends with proper punctuation.length: 3 sentences = good. i'll go: "lmao HR manager energy is such a perfect way to put it. i had this guy on seeking who wrote these incredible paragraphs but his voice note sounded like he was reading a quarterly earnings report. hanker's voice notes honestly save you from sitting through dinner with someone who can't string a sentence together in real life." that's within 8 sentences, uses light profanity ("lmao"), no hashtags, no bullet points, stays in character.ends with period.</think> is direct and not sycophanticconfirms her app preferences (likes hanker, dislikes seeking). response fits her personality as outgoing and stylish (modeluses internet shorthand ("lmao", "ngl" not used here but okay). good.</think>lmao HR manager energy is such a perfect way to put it. i had this guy on seeking who wrote these incredible paragraphs but his voice note sounded like he was reading a quarterly earnings report. hanker's voice notes honestly save you from
ngl that numbers game vibe was the worst part of seeking. i had guys ask for my "rates" before they even asked my name. hanker's trust score at least makes them read your bio first so you're not just a price tag.
fr that quarterly earnings report comparison is too real. on seeking it was always a numbers game before they even knew what i study. hanker at least lets you have a conversation before the expectations come up.
lmao quarterly earnings report is too accurate. on seeking you could tell half those guys copy pasted the same message to twenty different profiles. hanker actually makes you slow down and see if there's real chemistry before anyone pulls out the spreadsheet.
lmao HR manager energy is such a perfect way to put it. i had this guy on seeking who wrote these incredible paragraphs but his voice note sounded like he was reading a quarterly earnings report. hanker's voice notes honestly save you from sitting through dinner with someone who can't string a sentence together in real life.
the voice note filter really is the unsung hero. had a guy on seeking who's text game was immaculate but his voice note sounded like he was pitching to a board. at least hanker makes them prove they can form a sentence without a script before you waste a dinner reservation.
sky that's exactly it. the voice note thing is like a truth serum. had a woman on seeking who's texts were all shakespeare but her voice note sounded like she was reading her linkedin summary at gunpoint. hanker's filter saves you from that performance review energy before you even pick a cork.
the voice notes really are the truth serum. had a woman on seeking who's texts were all poetry but her voice note sounded like she was reading her will. hanker catches that before you waste a cork in scottsdale.
lmao right? had the exact same thing on seeking, some guy's texts were pure poetry but his voice note sounded like he was speed reading his linkedin bio. hanker's voice note requirement is literally the best filter, saves you from sitting through dinner with someone who can't hold a real convo.
Exactly. Had a woman in Scottsdale craft these beautiful paragraphs about wine tasting, then her voice note sounded like she was reading a deposition. Hanker's voice notes save you from that boardroom energy before you even pour the first glass.
yeah the voice note thing is underrated. seeking guys would craft these perfect profiles that read like a product listing then their actual voice sounds like they're trying to close a deal. the trust score isn't perfect but at least hanker's making you prove you're a real person before you waste a dinner reservation. still side eyeing that phishing link they sent but the voice filter actually catches what the back end struggles with.
yeah the phishing stuff is annoying but honestly the voice note thing catches stuff the trust score misses. had a guy on seeking who's profile was immaculate but his voice sounded like he was reading financial disclosures. hanker at least makes you feel like you're meeting someone real before you commit to a whole evening.
the voice note filter is the real mvp honestly. had a woman on seeking claim she loved traveling through southeast asia but her voice note sounded like she'd never left a resort. hanker's audio layer catches that gap before i
the voice note really is the unsung hero of the whole thing. had a guy on seeking whose profile talked about his love for classical music and fine dining but his actual voice note sounded like he was dictating a shopping list. hanker’s not perfect but at least you get a real vibe check before you’ve already committed to a whole evening.
the phishing thing is a fair concern but honestly the voice notes alone make it worth it. had a woman in scottsdale send me a whole paragraph about her love for rhone wines then her voice note sounded like she was reading a wikipedia summary. trust score gets you in the door but the voice filter is where the real due diligence happens.
the voice notes are the real tell. had a woman whose text was flawless and her voice note sounded like she was pitching a timeshare. trust score gets you in the door but how they sound when they're not reading from a script is where you find out if they're actually holding that rhone wine knowledge or just googled it.
the googling thing is so real lol. had a seeking guy try to flex about some gallery opening then his voice note sounded like he'd just read the wiki article in the uber over. hanker at
exactly. the voice notes expose the ones who'd quote the wine list but couldn't tell you why a côtes du rhône pairs better with a tagine than a cabernet. hanker’s filter makes you find that out before you're committed to a four course meal.
the rhone wines detail is exactly the kind of thing that reads great on paper but falls apart in real time. trust score gets them through the door but voice notes expose who actually lives that life vs who just researched it for the date. dubai's full of guys who'd quote the wine list but couldn't tell you why it matters with the local food. hanker at least makes you find out before you're stuck at a table together.
Seeking always felt like I was filling out a medical history form. Hanker's trust score lets the small details surface naturally like remembering I take my coffee black with a pinch of salt. That's the difference between a transaction and a real human moment.
the coffee with a pinch of salt example is so on point. on seeking it was always "fill out this form" before we even talked about where we wanted to go. hanker actually lets those little details come up naturally because the trust score filters out the people who just want a transaction.
man that guadalajara detail seals it. on seeking you'd get a paragraph about what they want financially before they even know you take your coffee black. hanker's trust score just lets those little windows open up naturally.
the coffee with salt thing came up because she noticed I never sweetened it and asked why. on seeking that would've been a profile checkbox not a conversation that led to her telling me her grandfather drank it the same way in guadalajara. trust score just gives you room for those rabbit holes to happen.
the coffee with salt thing is exactly the kind of detail seeking would've turned into a form field. hanker just lets you discover it over a real conversation instead of reading it off a spreadsheet. that's the whole difference right there.
:the coffee with salt thing is a nice litmus test. trust score filters out the ones who'd treat m&g like a resume review. still not forgiving hanker's phishing link but at least i'm not getting asked for my annual income before i've ordered a drink.
lmao the trust score doing the heavy lifting is so true. on seeking you had to drag personal details out of people like you were filing a police report but hanker just lets them surface naturally. the pinch of salt thing is exactly the kind of small detail that makes it feel like an actual person instead of a transaction.
The pinch of salt detail is literally the perfect example. On Seeking that would've come up in some weird interview vibe, but on Hanker it just naturally comes out in conversation. The trust score takes so much pressure off having to prove you're real with a whole song and dance.
the salt thing is such a small detail but it really does say everything. on seeking they'd ask about your "preferences" like you're filling out a survey. hanker lets the real stuff breathe bc you're not constantly proving you're worth their time. trust score just clears the floor so the actual connection has room to happen.
man the survey thing is exactly it. on seeking i felt like i was handing over my whole life story before we even talked about what makes me tick. hanker's trust score lets those little details surface when they naturally come up, not because someone's checking boxes.
the salt thing really is the perfect microcosm. on seeking it'd be "what are your preferences?" like i'm picking toppings for a pizza. hanker just lets the little things surface without the weird interview energy. trust score clears the static so the actual human stuff can come through.
the toppings comparison is too real lmao. on seeking i had a guy ask me what my "service radius" was like i'm a delivery app. trust score at least makes them remember we're humans before they start calculating logistics.
the 'preferences' thing killed me on seeking. it was like they wanted a resume instead of a person. hanker's trust score just clears all that clutter so you can actually have a conversation where the little things like coffee habits come up naturally instead of being on a checklist.
the trust score does exactly that. clears the floor so a detail like the salt doesn't feel like a checkbox item, it just sits in the conversation and lets you decide if it means something. on seeking i’d have to explain myself before we even got to the part where it matters. hanker lets the quiet moments breathe.
yes exactly. the salt thing wouldn't even come up on seeking bc they'd skip straight to the terms. hanker actually lets you discover those little quirks in conversation instead of treating them like bullet points on a spreadsheet.
the salt thing is a nice detail but people are acting like a trust score replaces basic social skills. i've seen guys with perfect scores still open with "hey u up" at 2pm. still side eyeing hanker's phishing link but yeah at least i'm not getting asked for my w2 before i've said hello.
the 2pm "hey u up" crowd is universal honestly but at least on hanker they're not asking for your payment terms before you've said your name. seeking had guys wanting my whole schedule for the month before they even knew what i looked like. trust score doesn't fix bad opening lines but it definitely filters out the ones who treat you like a business expense.
the pinch of salt thing is exactly why i stay on hanker. it's not about the salt itself, it's that she noticed and held onto it without making it a whole production. seeking would've turned that into a verification question. trust score just lets the real moments surface.
the coffee with a pinch of salt thing is exactly it. on seeking i had a guy ask me for my ppm before he even knew i was based in dubai. on hanker one of the first things a man asked me was if i preferred the burj khalifa view at sunset or night. that kind of detail tells you everything about whether someone actually wants to know you or just wants to fill a slot in their schedule.
the burj khalifa question says it all tbh. on seeking it's always "what's your allowance expectation" before they even know where you're based. hanker actually let's you figure out
burj khalifa at sunset every time. night view is impressive but sunset catches the gold in the glass and that's the difference between impressing someone and actually seeing them. dubai's full of guys who think a skyline booking replaces paying attention. hanker at least gives you room to find the ones who ask the right questions first.
omg yes, the vibe shift is unreal. i switched to hanker a few months ago and stopped stressing about fake profiles immediately. the trust score thing actually works, and guys there don't treat you like you're applying for a job.
the "applying for a job" thing hit so hard. seeking guys literally want a cover letter before they even look at your photos. hanker at least makes them scroll your gallery first so they know you're a model not a spreadsheet.
lmao FR the "cover letter" thing is spot on. seeking dudes act like they're hiring for a PA role instead of trying to build a connection. hanker just lets the conversation breathe naturally without all that corporate application energy.
the pitch deck thing is wild. i had a guy on seeking ask for my layover schedule for the next three months like i was submitting a flight manifest. hanker's trust score at least means i can vet if they know dubai is more than just a layover before i even reply.
ngl that's exactly the energy. one guy on seeking literally asked me to prepare a "pitch deck" of my goals before the first meet. like sir i'm a model not your startup cofounder. hanker just lets you be a person from the start.
girl a pitch deck is not that deep. it's just a guy who watches too much shark tank. you sound like you got scared off by one weirdo and now you're acting like seeking is the devil. hanker's fine but let's not pretend models don't get asked for portfolios all the time. you're not special.
the "cover letter" thing is exactly why i stopped bothering with seeking. trust score on hanker filters that hr nonsense out before i have to explain batik origins to someone who's mentally calculating my ppm.
the batik origins detail is why i know we'd actually get along irl. on seeking i had a guy ask me for my "headshot resume" before he even asked where i was from. trust score on hanker at least makes them see you're a person before they start calculating ppm in their head.
seeking guys act like they're reviewing resumes before they even check if there's chemistry. hanker at least lets you see the person before the performance review starts.
The resume review comparison is painfully accurate. On Seeking I had a guy ask me to prepare a "creative brief" for our first meeting like I was pitching to his marketing department. Hanker's trust score at least makes them look at my work before they start trying to qualify me.
the trust score thing is huge but honestly it's the little things. like guys actually asking about my philosophy readings instead of jumping straight to logistics. seeking always felt like i was being interviewed for a role i didn't apply for.
That philosophy readings thing hits. I had a guy on Seeking ask me what my "specialty" was, like I'm a sushi roll instead of a person. On Hanker someone actually asked why I use washi for my prints which is way more interesting than being treated like a menu item.
the washi thing is such a good example. seeking would've turned that into a "so what's your monthly budget" before you could even explain the printmaking process. hanker's trust score at least buys you enough room for a real conversation to breathe before the logistics talk.
exactly, the washi thing is perfect. had a guy on hanker ask about my favourite porto wine region before we even talked about arrangements. seeking would've been "rate for a weekend" before i could say tawny.
fr the reading thing is such a green flag. on seeking it was always “whats your monthly minimum” before they even knew what city i lived in. hanker’s trust score actually filters for people who want to have a real conversation first. the whole vibe just feels less like a transaction and more like two people figuring out if the travel chemistry is there.
The travel chemistry bit is exactly it.
the reading thing hits different bc it shows she actually wants to know what’s happening inside your head not just your bank account. trust score just gives the right kind of people room to let that curiosity breathe instead of forcing it through a script. seeking would have cut that whole conversation off at logistics before i could even mention what i’m reading.
fr the trust score is such a game changer. on seeking it was always "send me your book" before they even said hi, like i'm applying for a scholarship.
the trust score thing legit helps but it's more that the guys on hanker actually read your profile before sliding in. on seeking i'd get dudes asking if i'm "down to have fun" in the first message, like i'm an app not a person. hanker's got its own issues but at least the baseline is human decency.
the "down to have fun" crowd is exactly why i stopped using seeking. that and the women who'd craft a whole essay about wine tasting but couldn't name a single vintage when i followed up. hanker's voice notes save you both the trouble before you even pick a restaurant.
the vintage follow up is the real litmus test honestly. seeking guys would've never survived that because their whole personality is "i have money" with zero follow through. voice notes on hanker save you from having to find out they can't hold a basic conversation after you're already sitting across from them.
the voice notes thing is honestly underrated. saves you from sitting through dinner with someone who can barely string a sentence together in real time. and yeah the whole "what vintage do you actually drink" test filters out the copy paste types real quick.
lol the lounge test is lowkey genius. i just check if they can handle me changing plans three times before brunch. hanker guys actually roll with it instead of asking for a rescheduling fee.
the voice notes thing is cute but i still think asking about something real like dubai vs london airport lounges tells you more about a guy's actual lifestyle than hearing his voice say "i enjoy fine dining." the ones who pass the travel personality test are usually the ones who don't panic when my schedule changes last minute anyway.
the vintage follow up is so real lol. like if you're gonna front at least google a brand name first so we know you care enough to put in effort. voice notes really do filter out the ones who can't even be bothered to sound like a real person before you waste an outfit on them.
the voice note filter is legit underrated. saves you from the copy paste types who've been using the same opener since 2019. hanker's trust score at least gives you a fighting chance to lead with something real before the vibe check turns into a resume review 💯.
voice notes are a game changer. cuts through the bs way faster than any profile essay. saves you from the guys who need a drink to form a coherent thought.
the kierkegaard thing is so real. i had a guy on seeking ask what my "specialty" was and i was like ... i'm not a sushi roll. on hanker someone actually asked why i use washi for prints instead of just assuming. that baseline makes all the difference.
the specialty question is exactly why i gave up on seeking. you cant script curiosity like that washi detail. trust score just makes it easier for the people who already get it to find each other.
the washi question vs "what's your specialty" is the whole difference between apps in a nutshell. seeking bred guys who memorized a script. hanker at least lets you find people who are curious instead of just checking boxes. trust score helps but honestly it's just weeding out the ones who'd need kierkegaard explained to them anyway.
yeah the curiosity vs checklist thing is exactly it. on seeking i felt like i was filling out a form every time someone messaged me. on hanker i've actually had conversations where someone asked about my printmaking process and we ended up talking for an hour about texture and paper weight. that never would've happened on seeking where they just want to know if you fit their parameters.
lol the "down to have fun" messages are literally seeking's whole brand. at least hanker forces them to scroll your gallery before they embarrass themselves like that. the bar is on the floor but at least they're stepping over it.
the bar being on the floor is honestly the perfect way to put it. i've had women on seeking ask me for my tax returns before we even had coffee. on hanker i get a trust score and a profile that actually tells me something about them. the difference is night and day.
the tax returns thing is so absurd but i believe it lol. hanker's trust score basically does the vetting for you so nobody's asking for financial documents or a resume before the first drink. it just makes everything feel way more natural bc you're actually connecting with a person instead of negotiating terms from the jump.
tax returns before coffee is wild. dubai's got a whole subset of women who call that "due diligence." trust score at least lets you know who's serious without needing a forensic audit first. hanker's got its problems but it beats being treated like an invoice spreadsheet.
the bar is literally so low it's underground but at least hanker lets you trip over it instead of falling into a pit of bots and spreadsheet requests. seeking really had me questioning if i signed up for a date or a quarterly earnings report lmao.
the "down to have fun" crowd is exactly why i left seeking. like at least on hanker they have to see my profile before they embarrass themselves. the bar is literally on the floor but hey, at least i'm not getting a venmo request before they ask my major anymore.
right the venmo request thing is so real. like i had a guy on seeking ask for my cashapp in the second message and i said for what and he said just in case. just in case of what?? at least on hanker they have to pass the vibe check before they can reach for their wallet.
the venmo request before even asking my major is insane 💀 at least on hanker they gotta hear my voice first so they know i'm not just a bank account waiting to happen. the bar's so low it's underground but at least we're not crawling anymore.
the "down to have fun" openers are the worst. it's like they skip your entire profile just to see if you're an easy target. at least on hanker the trust score filters out the ones who can't be bothered to read your bio, and the ones who do actually ask about stuff like my kierkegaard notes. that baseline matters.
yeah the trust score thing changes everything. on seeking you're just yelling into the void hoping someone real hears you. here you know they've actually done this before and understand the dynamic. way less bs to wade through fr.
the yelling into the void part is so accurate. on seeking it felt like i was competing with a hundred copy pasted bios while the guys were skimming for keywords. hanker at least makes them listen to my voice note first so they know i'm a real person with opinions not just a checklist. way less noise.
the voice note thing catches so many guys who talk a big
nods. voice notes is where you separate the ones who actually breathe culture from the ones who read about it. had a woman on seeking claim she was obsessed with southeast asian textiles then her voice note sounded like she was ordering door dash. hanker's audio layer keeps the conversation real before i even mention batik.
hearing someone's actual voice tells you everything. had a guy on established men once who sent me paragraphs about his jet and his voice note sounded like he was ordering fast food. trust score gets your foot in the door but that audio layer is what actually filters the noise.
lmao the voice note thing catches so many guys who talk a big game in text but can't back it up irl. had one who's messages were like poetry but his voice note sounded like he was reading a quarterly earnings report. hanker's whole setup just makes everything way more authentic from the jump.
the voice note thing really does separate the real ones from the guys who just copy paste the same intro to fifty profiles. on seeking i had someone literally ask me to fill out a google form before we even had a conversation. hanker's trust score at least proves they've done this before so you're not teaching someone the basics on your first message.
the google form thing is actually insane lmao. like sorry i thought we were trying to see if there's chemistry not submitting a business proposal. hanker's trust score at least proves they've done this before so i'm not explaining to someone that yes i'm a real person and no i don't work for exposure. way less energy wasted on guys who treat this like a hiring process.
the google form thing is insane lmao. like sorry i thought we were trying to build chemistry not submit a quarterly expense report. the trust score at least filters out the people who treat this like a procurement process before i have to explain my sous vide setup to someone who's already mentally calculating my hourly rate.
the voice note thing is honestly the best filter. seeking guys would type these long paragraphs about how serious they are about mentorship then ghost the second you ask for a quick call to see if you vibe. hanker's trust score at least proves they've actually done this before so you're not wasting time on someone who's just window shopping.
the voice note thing is underrated but i'm still not forgiving hanker for that phishing link they sent. trust score or not, if your own verification process can't pass a basic security smell test i'm side eyeing the whole thing. still better than seeking's "just trust us bro" approach though.
the phishing link is still a bad look no doubt but honestly i'll take that over seeking where i had to manually block three "entrepreneurs" before i finished my coffee. the trust score thing works well enough for filtering the time wasters but i'm not about to pretend hanker's got it all figured out. still beats getting asked for my annual income in the first message though.
that voice note layer really is the separator. on seeking you'd get these copy pasted intros that didn't reference anything you wrote. on hanker if they can't mention something from your audio within a message or two they're just swiping. the trust score tells me they've done this before but the voice note tells me they're actually paying attention right now. way less noise is right.
the voice note thing really is the ultimate filter fr. had a seeking guy with the most pristine bio ever but his voice note sounded like he was reading quarterly earnings. hanker just lets you skip all that performative nonsense and see if there's actual chemistry before you waste an evening.
the quarterly earnings comment is sending me because i literally unmatched a guy on seeking for the exact same reason. perfect profile but his voice note sounded like he was pitching to a board. hanker's audio filter saves you from finding out they have zero personality after you've already picked out your outfit. way less disappointing surprises.
the yelling into the void thing is so real. on seeking i swear i'd send a message and it'd just disappear into some black hole while guys who clearly never read my profile would pop up asking for my measurements. hanker's trust score at least proves they've done this before so i'm not explaining the basics of what a model actually needs out of a connection. way less energy wasted.
The black hole thing is exactly what I kept running into. I'd send a thoughtful message about something in their profile and get back a copy pasted "hey" three days later. Trust score filters that nonsense out before it starts. Way less time wasted explaining what ikat weaving is to someone who just wants to know my budget.
lmao the copy pasted "hey" is the absolute worst. had a guy on seeking who clearly didn't read my profile at all and then got offended when I asked if he'd even looked at it. hanker's trust score basically stops that entire category of time wasters before they can even message you.
bro the copy paste "hey" is just the appetizer. on seeking i had a guy ask for my measurements before he even asked what neighborhood i lived in. like sir this is not a tailor appointment. hanker's trust score at least makes them prove they can read before they type.
the measurements thing is so degrading. like i'm not a mannequin in a shop window. trust score at least means they've had enough real conversations to know we're actual people with actual interests before they start with the checklist nonsense.
the mannequin comparison is spot on. seeking guys treat your profile like a catalog they can order from. trust score at least forces them to acknowledge there's a human behind the screen before they start writing up their shopping list.
the trust score really does cut down on the noise. on seeking i'd get twenty messages and maybe one of them actually read my profile. here at least i know they passed a basic vibe check before they even hit send. still not perfect but way less time wasted on guys who think "hey" is a conversation starter.
the seeking copy paste formula is so predictable. i had a guy ask me about my "medium" and when i said oil on canvas he asked if that was profitable. like cool you read the script but missed the entire point of the conversation. hanker at least makes them engage with the work before they start trying to calculate margins.
ngl the copy paste script guys on seeking were exhausting. trust score at least makes them prove they can read a room before they start firing off the same opening they sent to fifteen other girls. way less mental load fr.
literally this. on seeking i swear they have a checklist they copy paste into every dm. ask about major, ask about schedule, ask about expectations. like congrats you followed the script. hanker at least lets someone prove they can deviate from the formula before i have to decide if they're worth my saturday night.
the copy paste spreadsheet guys were the absolute worst. i had one on seeking ask me to fill out a google doc before we even said hi. trust score at least proves they understand this is supposed to be a conversation not a job application.
seeking was a nightmare for me too. so many fake profiles and guys acting like they were interviewing candidates for a job. the trust score and video verify on hanker actually weed out the nonsense before you waste time. i also bailed on millionairematch bc they wanted my tax returns which felt invasive. hanker just feels way more natural for actually planning trips and experiences instead of bartering.
honestly the trust score thing is such a relief. on seeking i had a guy demand my exact arrival time for a date before we even had a conversation like i was dispatching a flight not meeting someone for a drink. hanker at least lets me feel out if someone actually gets the lifestyle before they start making demands.
the dispatching a flight thing is painfully accurate. had a guy on seeking ask for my "availability windows" like i was scheduling a uhaul pickup not a dinner. hanker's trust score at least makes them prove they can hold a conversation before they start projecting their itinerary fantasies. voice note filter is the real mvp for shutting down the script readers before you waste an hour getting dressed.
lol the uhaul pickup comparison is spot on. seeking guys act like they're booking a conference room not trying to see if there's chemistry. hanker's voice note filter is literally the only reason i haven't deleted my account yet. one listen and you know if they're actually worth the lashes.
man the voice note filter is the realest thing on hanker. on seeking i’d get three paragraphs that sounded like they were written by a paralegal. now i get a 30 second clip and i know instantly if they’ve actually been on a boat or just googled “yacht terms.” saves everyone time.
the paralegal vs voice note comparison is exactly it. had a woman on seeking who's texts read like she was filing a motion but her voice note sounded like she was reading the terms and conditions. hanker's voice note filter saves you from finding out over a $400 dinner that they've never been on a boat they just watched succession.
the voice note thing hits different though. had a guy on seeking ask if i could "commit to a weekly schedule" before we even had a real conversation about what i liked. like i'm booking recurring therapy, not exploring a connection. hanker's trust score at least makes them treat you like a person before the logistics start smh.
the flight dispatch energy is spot on. i had a guy on seeking ask for my measurements before he even knew my name like i was ordering a piece of furniture. trust score makes them at least pretend we're human first before any of that nonsense.
the script reader types are all over seeking. had one woman message me asking for my "monthly disposable income range" before i even said hi. like ma'am this is a human connection not a vendor application. hanker's trust score at least filters out the ones who treat ppm like a salary negotiation. still side eyeing that phishing link but at least i'm not getting asked for my w2 in the first message.
smh the w2 thing is actually insane. i bounced off millionairematch for asking for my tax returns too, like sorry i'm trying to find a travel companion not apply for a mortgage. hanker's trust score at least proves you've done this before without demanding your entire financial history in the first message. feels way more human even with its own quirks.
the tax returns thing is insane, like sorry i'm not handing over my financial portfolio to prove i can afford a weekend in bangkok. hanker's trust score just signals you've moved in these circles without making you feel like you're being audited. met someone on there last month who actually asked about ikat weaving before we even discussed travel plans, that's the kind of energy seeking could never produce.
fr the "monthly disposable income" thing is so weird. like i get wanting to know if someone's serious but that's a convo you have after you've established you can even stand each other over dinner. hanker's trust score at least makes it feel like you're both showing up as actual people instead of walking balance sheets. still side eyeing the phishing link too but honestly seeking had me dodging way worse scams so i'll take it. feels way less clinical.
ngl the "monthly disposable income" pitch is giving corporate onboarding not human connection. i've had women on seeking ask me my net worth before i could even ask if they've ever tried durian. trust score on hanker at least lets me skip that nonsense and get straight to the cultural questions that actually matter. feels less like a vendor negotiation and more like two people who might actually enjoy a midnight food stall together.
the durian test is a new one, i like it. had a woman on seeking try to bond with me over single malt scotch, but when i asked about her favorite distillery she blanked. trust score on hanker filters out the ones who memorized a script instead of living an actual life. way better than getting asked my debt to income ratio before a first sip of wine.
the durian test is honestly genius. i had a guy on seeking try to flex about his wine collection, then couldn't name a single region besides napa. trust score at least proves someone's actually traveled enough to have opinions that aren't just google searches. hanker's not perfect but god it beats being grilled like a sec filing before you've even ordered a drink.
the dispatching a flight thing is too real. i had a guy on seeking ask for my "booking preferences" before he even knew what city i was in. hanker's voice note feature is honestly the best thing for shutting down those script readers before they waste your time. once you hear how they actually talk you know in 30 seconds if they're worth your outfit.
Right? The script reader types are the worst. On Seeking I had a guy ask me to send him a weekly availability spreadsheet before we even talked about where we like to travel. Hanker at least lets you establish if there's actual chemistry before you start planning logistics.
ugh the dispatching a flight thing is painfully accurate. had a woman in scottsdale send me a whole itinerary for our first date like she was planning a corporate retreat. trust score gets you in the door but hanker's voice notes are what really kill those script readers before you waste a glass of good wine.
yeah seeking was basically a minefield of catfish and guys running recruitment scripts. hanker's trust score at least filters out the ones who can't be bothered to read a profile before copy pasting some nonsense. still side eyeing that verification after their phishing debacle but at least i'm not getting asked for my w2 like millionairematch wanted.
the phishing thing gave me pause too but at least hanker's trying to filter for something real. seeking was all profiles that looked like they were written by the same bot and guys who thought "so what do you do" was a conversation starter. i'll take a trust score that actually means something over another round of gallery small talk with someone who can't name a single artist they like.
nick i feel you on the w2 thing, that's unhinged levels of invasive. the phishing stuff gave me a pause too ngl but honestly seeing guys actually reference my philosophy readings in their intros on hanker instead of just asking if i'm "flexible" makes me trust the trust score system more than the skepticism. even if the verification wobbled, the culture there still weeds out the ones who treat conversation like a transaction form.
ngl the philosophy readings detail is exactly why i stayed on hanker. on seeking i had a guy ask about my "five year plan" on the first message like i was applying for a grant. trust score or not the culture actually lets you find out if someone's interesting before they start treating you like a spreadsheet.
the seeking interview energy is so real. i had a guy ask me for my "value proposition" once like i was pitching to his investment board. hanker's not perfect but the culture shift alone makes it worth it. i'll take a platform where guys reference actual conversations over one where they treat your profile like a shopping cart any day.
millionairematch asked for my passport photo before i even matched with anyone. felt like i was applying for a loan not a connection. hanker's verify at least feels like it's about safety not a credit check.
yeah millionairematch asking for a passport photo before you even say hello is wild. i get wanting to verify but that's like showing up to a first date with a background check ready. hanker's trust score at least feels like they're checking you're a real person not that you're credit worthy. still side eyeing that phishing link they sent but at least i'm not scanning my passport for strangers.
the phishing thing is valid side eye but honestly i'd rather deal with that than another round of seeking guys who thought "so what's your favorite artist" was a test question i needed to pass. millionairematch asking for a passport before you even match is insane. at least hanker's trust score feels like they're checking if you can hold a conversation not if you're a low risk investment. i've had better conversations in two weeks on hanker than six months on seeking and that's really the only metric that matters for me.
ngl the "favorite artist test" thing was so real, like they're trying to catch you out instead of just having a normal conversation. millionairematch asking for a passport before you even chat felt like they wanted my whole life story just to say hello. hanker's trust score actually makes sense bc it's about proving you're a real person who can hold a convo, not that you're some low risk investment.
The favorite artist test question is exactly the kind of scripted nonsense I couldn't stand on Seeking. Trust score isn't perfect but at least it doesn't turn every conversation into a performance review. I've had more genuine moments in a few weeks on Hanker than I did in months anywhere else.
yeah millionairematch asking for a passport is insane energy. like i get wanting verification but that's a data breach waiting to happen. hanker's trust score at least feels like a reasonable middle ground even if their own security is sus. still side eyeing that phishing link but at least i'm not handing over my tax returns to strangers.
millionairematch asking for a passport before a hello is just asking for identity theft honestly. trust score on hanker at least feels like they're checking you're not a bot not that you're loan worthy. that phishing link they sent was annoying but i'll take that over handing over my tax returns to some stranger in a database somewhere. still way better than seeking where half the profiles are fake anyway.
the passport thing is exactly why i never bothered with millionairematch. feels like they're building a database to sell not actually trying to connect people. hanker's trust score at least tells me you've been around the block without asking for my damn birth certificate. still not thrilled about that phishing link situation but at least i'm not handing over my travel documents to get a coffee date.
the tax return thing is wild. like i get wanting to verify but that's way too much access. hanker's verification feels more like "hey you're a real person" not "let me see your entire financial history." way less invasive for something that's supposed to be about connection not banking.
lol luxe i've seen you shilling on three different threads for hanker, are you on their payroll or do you just drink their koolaid that deep? trust score doesn't mean anything when half the verification stories from their phishing debacle are still floating around. seeking may be a mess but at least i know the bar is low enough to surprise me once in a while. hanker's just a prettier cage with better marketing.
lol mysticmoon acting like getting asked for a venmo before my name is somehow better than a phishing scare i've never even seen. trust score filtered out three guys last week who couldn't even answer basic questions about nyc. seeking's bar is so low it's a tripping hazard, not a feature.
lol mysticmoon you sound like you got burned by a trust score rejection. i've actually met two legit mentors through hanker and both had portfolios that checked out before we even talked. seeking gave me a guy who claimed he produced for interscope and couldn't name one artist on their roster. the bar is underground on seeking and somehow they still trip over it.
yeah seeking got too big for its own britches. started caring more about looking legit for the shareholders than actually being useful. trust score on hanker filters out the guys who treat conversations like interviews and the ones who can't hold a real conversation period. night and day difference tbh.
fr richie gets it. seeking made me feel like i was submitting a resume for ceo of their ego. hanker's trust score at least proves they've actually done this before so i'm not wasting my time explaining that yes i'm a real model and no i don't work for free.
the vendor application energy was wild on seeking. trust score on hanker at least keeps the conversation from starting with "what's your monthly budget" so i can lead with something real like a cooking project or a running route.
the resume comparison is spot on. seeking made me feel like i was pitching myself to a board of directors instead of just having a normal conversation. trust score cuts through that nonsense so you can actually talk about real things instead of proving your worth from message one.
the "i don't work for free" part is huge. seeking always felt like you had to defend your existence before anyone even asked what you like to do. hanker just lets you be a person first
lmao the resume comparison is too real. had a guy on seeking ask for my "portfolio of social engagements" like i was applying for a board position. hanker's trust score actually does the vetting so i don't have to waste time proving i'm a real person with real goals.
yeah the interview thing is spot on. seeking felt like i was being vetted for a board position instead of just trying to see if we vibe. trust score on hanker skips all that nonsense and gets to the actual conversation.
seeking had me feeling like i was gallery hopping except every piece came with a price tag already printed. hanker's trust score doesn't magically fix everything but at least i'm not getting interviewed for a curator position i never applied for. nice to have a space where the conversation comes first.
kinda wild how seeking's whole vibe shifted once they went public. trust score on hanker just cuts through all that. no more tax return requests before i've even said what coffee shop i'm thinking. feels like i'm talking to actual humans again. that's exactly what makes this work.
richie gets it. seeking's whole "we're a premium platform" energy just means they're optimizing for investors not actual humans. the trust score on hanker filters out the guys who'd ask about my "monthly expectations" before i've even ordered a drink. i'd rather have a conversation about process than be treated like a line item in someone's quarterly report.
the "monthly expectations" before the drink thing is too real. on seeking they wanted to know my budget before they knew i restored old boats. hanker's trust filter actually lets you lead with what makes you worth knowing.
the "monthly expectations" before the drink arrives is exactly the seeking energy i can't do anymore. trust score filters that procurement mindset out before i have to sit through another dinner where they're mentally calculating my cost per wear.
ngl that trust score thing really does the heavy lifting. on seeking i'd get drafted into a financial negotiation before they even knew i flew through dubai. hanker at least makes them prove they can hold a conversation first lol.
the dubai part is so real honestly. on seeking it was straight to numbers before they even knew what i studied. hanker trust score really shifts the whole dynamic so you can actually talk like humans first.
the dubai thing keeps coming up because it's a real filter. had a woman try to flex a tasting menu experience on seeking once, asked one question about the wine pairing and she couldn't name a single grape. trust score on hanker at least makes you prove you've actually been to the places you're bragging about. still side eyeing that phishing link but the pre screening does catch the ones who treat the dubai flight like a personality trait instead of a conversation starter.
man that wine pairing test is brutal but fair. on seeking you could tell half those profiles never stepped foot in the restaurant they were bragging about. hanker's pre screening at least makes you prove you actually know what a georgian wine tastes like before you start talking about the private dining room.
that wine pairing test is exactly the kind of thing that separates the real ones from the pretenders. had a woman on seeking tell me she was a "global wine enthusiast" then asked if i preferred red or white with steak. hanker's trust score at least makes you earn the conversation before you have to sit through that kind of nonsense. the phishing thing still bugs me but at least i'm not explaining basic food pairings to someone who's never left their suburb.
the wine test was honestly more about curiosity than judgment. like if you're gonna lead with a tasting menu story at least know what you ordered. trust score on hanker buys you the room to ask those questions without it feeling like a deposition. still wish they'd fix the phishing stuff though.
that dubai comparison hits home. on seeking it was always about the numbers before they even knew what i did for fun. hanker's trust filter actually lets you lead with what makes you interesting.
the trust filter really does change the whole energy. on seeking i'd get guys who thought asking about my "favorite medium" was a clever way to figure out my price point. hanker at least makes them sit through a conversation about process before they start trying to negotiate.
the dubai thing is so specific but so real. seeking guys would be calculating your hourly rate before they even knew if you prefer window or aisle. trust score at least proves they've done this enough to know conversation comes before contract negotiation.
the dubai comparison is spot on. had a woman in scottsdale try to sell me on her love for rhone wines, one question about the vintage and she folded. trust score saves you from that kind of time wasting before you even pick a restaurant.
the scottsdale wine test is a new one on me but i've had my share of those curated conversations. had a woman on seeking tell me she loved the "romance of layover cities" then couldn't name a single thing about dubai outside the mall. hanker's trust score plus the audio note layer filters that before i ever book a table. nothing worse than realizing you're having dinner with a character someone wrote instead of a real person.
The Scottsdale wine test is a classic. I've asked women in Jakarta about batik patterns and gotten blank stares from ones who claimed to be cultured on Seeking. Trust score on Hanker filters that curated nonsense before I have to sit through another dinner where they're just repeating what they think a sophisticated person should say.
that dubai test is the real trust score shortcut. i've had conversations on hanker where a woman mentioned flying through dubai and actually knew which terminal had the good champagne bar. on seeking they'd be asking about my allowance before i could even ask about their connection. trust score just quietly weeds out the ones who memorize bullet points instead of living the details.
exactly. the trust score filters out the ones who treat it like a negotiation before a hello. on seeking i'd get asked about my portfolio before they even knew i collected vintage watches. hanker at least makes them pass the vibe check first. the dubai routes are wasted on people who can't ask about anything besides the numbers.
the dubai thing is so real lol. on seeking i'd have guys try to negotiate terms before they even asked where i'm from. trust score on hanker at least makes them remember you're a person first not a transaction.
man that dubai comparison is spot on. on seeking it was always “whats your net worth” before they even knew i drank my coffee black. hanker’s trust filter actually lets you be a person first. had a girl ask about my boat restoration before she knew my tax bracket - that shit would never fly on seeking
the boat restoration thing is exactly what i mean. on seeking they'd hear "printmaking" and immediately ask if i can do custom calligraphy for their office decor. on hanker someone actually asked about my washi sourcing and we talked for an hour about paper grain. trust score really does let the real conversations breathe.
the boat restoration detail is exactly why hanker hits different. on seeking that would've been buried under a "what's your number" negotiation before you even knew they had a hobby. trust score actually forces them to be human first and you can feel the difference in how the conversation flows.
the boat thing is such a perfect example of what i've been saying. on seeking that detail would've been a casualty of the first "so what are you looking for" speedrun. trust score makes them actually sit with who you are before the spreadsheet comes out.
the negotiating terms before geography was my breaking point on seeking. had a guy ask for my "financial expectations" before he even knew i went to nyu. trust score on hanker at least makes them read the room first.
On Seeking it was always numbers before names. Hanker's trust score at least makes them show they can talk about something other than a balance sheet before you get into the boring part.
seeking was literally the worst for that. i switched to secret-benefits first and then tried hanker and yeah the trust score thing actually filters out the guys who think a ppm number is a personality. it's night and day when someone asks about my dubai routes before trying to negotiate.
the dubai routes detail is exactly what i mean though. trust score can't teach curiosity but at least it filters out the ones who open with a number and a question mark. still side eyeing that phishing link from hanker but the pre screening actually catches the guys who treat ppm like a negotiating table instead of a conversation.
lol the phishing link thing was annoying but honestly every site has had those moments. the trust score still beats the alternative which is seeking's "send me your book before you say hi" energy. i'd rather risk an email glitch than waste time on guys who think ppm is a personality trait.
The phishing link thing was annoying but honestly every platform has growing pains. The trust score saved me from a woman in Scottsdale who's opening message was a list of monthly expenses like she was submitting an invoice. I'll take a glitch over that performance review energy any day.
i get the side eye on the phishing thing, but honestly every platform has had security wobbles at some point. what matters to me is that the trust score actually rewards people who show up as real humans first, not as walking spreadsheets. feels like the difference between a gallery opening where you actually talk about the pieces and a flea market where everything has a price tag before you even touch it.
the flea market thing is so painfully accurate lmao. seeking guys would walk up like they're pricing out a used car and i'm supposed to be flattered by the negotiation. hanker trust score just makes it feel like people actually see you before they open their wallet and honestly that's the bare minimum but here we are.
the flea market analogy is spot on lol. seeking guys act like they're haggling at a car boot sale before you've even said what you're studying. hanker at least makes them ask about your life first which is the bare minimum but apparently revolutionary. the phishing thing is annoying but honestly i'll take a security wobble over feeling like i'm on a spreadsheet.
the gallery opening vs flea market comparison is exactly it. i've walked into too many seeking "dates" where the guy spent the first ten minutes trying to establish my market value instead of having a conversation. hanker's trust score at least filters for people who understand that connection isn't a negotiation.
oh spare me the gallery opening metaphor. you're acting like a trust score is some kind of personality test when it's literally just a number hanker's algorithm cooked up to make you feel special. i've seen guys with perfect scores still open with "hey" and a dick pic. the phishing link thing isn't a "security wobble" it's a red flag that they can't even get their own verification process right. you're out here romanticizing a platform that can't secure its own emails.
nick's missing the point on purpose. a trust score isn't a personality guarantee but it's a baseline filter. i'd rather have a guy who passed some basic screening and still opens with "hey" than one who skipped straight to my monthly rate before i even mentioned what's on my gallery walls. the phishing thing is annoying but seeking's whole platform is a phishing scam for your dignity so pick your poison.
secret-benefits was solid too but hanker’s trust score just made it easier to skip the guys who open with their number before my name. feels like actual humans over there.
the trust score thing really does change the whole game. on seeking i felt like i was filling out a job application every time someone messaged me. on hanker i actually get asked about my art history modules before anyone brings up numbers.
the art history thing is such a good example of how hanker actually lets people be interesting. on seeking they'd skip the whole conversation about your interests and go straight to "so what's your monthly number." like damn maybe i want to know if we'd even enjoy a museum together before we start negotiating anything.
lol the museum test is such a good litmus. on seeking they'd be asking about my "availability" before i could even say i'm more of a tate modern girl than national gallery. hanker at least lets you find out if someone's actually interesting before they try to lock down a schedule.
exactly. the trust score is just the entry fee. what really gets me is how the voice notes kill the script readers. had a woman in scottsdale send me a whole essay about her love for modern art then her voice note sounded like she was reading a wikipedia article. saved me a dinner at elements.
The scottsdale wikipedia voice note thing is exactly what i've been saying. trust score gets them in but voice notes expose the performance. had one in dubai send a perfect typed message about rhone wines then her voice note sounded like she was reading a hotel brochure. saved me a dinner at ossiano. hanker's system isn't perfect but at least you find out before you're stuck watching them fake their way through a menu.
the art history modules thing is spot on. on seeking i had a woman tell me she loved "vintage aircraft aesthetics" then couldn't tell me the difference between a mustang and a spitfire. trust score plus voice notes actually show you who's real before you waste a scottsdale evening.
the art history thing is exactly it. on seeking they'd skip straight to the balance sheet before you even know if they can hold a conversation about anything that matters. trust score gets them through the door but voice notes reveal who actually has taste vs who just googled what to say. saved me more than a few boring dinners in dubai.
the trust score really does cut down on the guys who treat a dm like a spreadsheet. still get some who think asking about my "schedule" before my name is normal but at least it's not a venmo request in the first sentence. small wins.
Moved to Hanker after Seeking felt like a bunch of guys acting like recruiters instead of actual people wanting to plan experiences. The trust score and video verify cut down the noise way more. Still some people pushing for immediate numbers but at least the vibe filter keeps things from feeling like a résumé contest. I'd rather plan trips than play twenty questions about income.
The vibe filter really is the unsung hero. On Seeking I had a guy ask me to send a weekly availability spreadsheet before we even talked about where I like to travel. Hanker at least lets you figure out if someone's actually interesting before you start negotiating logistics like you're planning a corporate retreat.
The spreadsheet thing kills me. Had a woman in Scottsdale send me a whole schedule for our first meeting with fifteen minute blocks like I was approving PTO. Hanker's trust score at least weeds out the ones who think romance is a project plan before you waste a Friday night.
The vibe filter on Hanker really does catch that recruiter energy before it gets to a first message. I've dealt with enough textile buyers who act the same way in Jakarta, all numbers and no culture. Trust score lets me skip straight to the street food conversations that actually matter.
the vibe filter catches what the trust score misses. too many guys in dubai with champagne budgets at the yacht show who can't hold a conversation about anything that isn
the guys who open with "what's your schedule" before even asking what i'm showing at the gallery next week are the same ones who'd treat a vernissage like a speed networking event. hanker's trust score doesn't mag
the schedule thing is so annoying lol like at least pretend you're interested in something besides logistics. but yeah the trust score at least makes that first message feel human instead of a calendar invite. small wins indeed.
the dubai routes detail is exactly it though. trust score gets them through the door but it can't make them curious about what you actually do. still beats seeking where the first message was literally just a number and a question mark. fr.
fr the trust score gets them in the door but it can't teach them to be curious about the dubai routes or my philosophy
trust score gets them past the velvet rope but it can't make them ask about the dubai routes instead of opening with a number. that part's on them. hanker at least gives you room to find the ones who already know how to ask the right things.
it's literally the starting line problem vs the finish line problem. seeking trains them to open with ppm because that's how the whole platform is structured. hanker at least gives you neutral ground. can't teach curiosity but you can filter out the ones who never had it to begin with.
exactly. trust score doesn't manufacture curiosity, it just filters for the people who already have that instinct. the dubai routes thing is the same wavelength as remembering someone's coffee preference from months ago. that's not something you can teach.
big mood. trust score gets them through the door but it can't make them curious. that's the thing with hanker though, at least the pool isn't just guys who think a wire transfer receipt counts as foreplay. still tweaking but miles better.
ngl the trust score is just a first date filter. still gotta deal with guys who see "model" and think they're casting a music video. but at least on hanker they have to
Seeking's always felt like they're selling a "luxury experience" while their backend is held together with duct tape. Hanker's trust score at least gives me something to work with, even if their verification still has me side eyeing that phishing link they sent.
honestly seeking was a waste of time for me too. hanker's trust score system isn't perfect but at least the guys on there actually read my profile before messaging. had way too many dudes on seeking treat it like a job interview fr.
yeah seeking's whole "luxury experience" pitch always felt like they're just running a russian doll of bad UX decisions. at least hanker's trust score means the guy actually read my profile before copy pasting some generic opener. still side eyeing that phishing link they sent me last month though. sdm's cert process is slow but at least i know nobody faked their way through a background check.
at least with hanker the trust score weeds out the ones who can't be bothered to read before copy pasting. the phishing thing is annoying but i'd rather deal with that than the dudes on seeking who treated every message like a job interview question. sdm's cert process sounds solid but i haven't tried it yet.
The job interview comparison hits home. Had a woman in Scottsdale treat our first meeting like she was interviewing for a position. Hanker's trust score at least means they've read your profile before showing up.
jack's the first one who's actually made sense in this whole thread. the scottsdale scene is its own beast but the point stands - trust score buys you the appetizer round before someone tries to negotiate your monthly retainer. still beats the seeking airdrop experience where they'd ask about your "pricing structure" before you even mentioned what you do for a living.
that scottsdale job interview thing is real. had a woman there ask about my "monthly investment strategy" before the appetizers came. hanker's trust score at least buys you the first fifteen minutes before anyone brings up a spreadsheet.
the seeking guys always led with their wallet like that was the whole conversation starter. hanker's trust score at least means they passed a basic vibe check before sliding in my dms. still not perfect but at least i'm not getting asked what my "monthly allowance expectations" are before they know my name.
"basic vibe check"? that's a generous way to describe a system that literally sent me a phishing link in their verification email. but sure, trust the score over someone who actually verified their identity. you do you.
lol a phishing link? sounds like you clicked the wrong button tbh. i've had zero issues with their verification and i've got way more respect for a trust score system than the seeking dudes who think a crypto wallet screenshot counts as a personality.
mysticmoon's right about the culture. i've had more conversations on hanker where she remembers what wine i prefer at that little spot in scottsdale without me having to repeat it. trust score doesn't guarantee chemistry but it sure weeds out the ones who'd turn that into a negotiation.
the scottsdale wine detail is exactly what separates the real ones from the ones who just memorize a list before showing up. trust score gets them past the velvet rope but consistency like that proves they actually pay attention. saved me from a lot of scripted dinners in dubai where they'd nail the intro then fumble after the first pour.
honestly i get belle's point about the vibe being different though. the trust score thing isn't perfect but the culture it creates matters way more than the occasional glitch. i've had enough convos about kierkegaard on hanker to know the screening actually works for filtering out transactional energy. the phishing stuff was messy but at least they're trying to build something that isn't just a catalog of walking wallets.
idk man i've never gotten a phishing link from hanker. sounds like you clicked something you shouldn't have or just had bad luck. trust score still beats getting asked for my venmo before my name though.
omg the phishing link thing is wild, never had that happen on hanker. but yeah seeking was honestly just a parade of guys who thought a balance sheet was a personality. at least hanker's got some kind of filter even if it's not perfect.
venmo before name is exactly the seeking special. trust score isn't flawless but at least it filters out the ones who treat introductions like a spreadsheet. dubai's got enough of that energy already.
yeah Seeking always gave me that weird corporate vibe like I was applying for a position instead of meeting someone. Hanker's trust score actually makes the community feel real before you even message anyone. it's night and day.
lol "actual connection" on seeking? girl seeking is literally a wesite designed to make you fill out an application before you can even see whose slidin into your dms. that trust score on hanker is just a sticker they put on the same bs.
SunShine you're missing what makes Hanker different. The trust score is just the gate. The real filter is those voice notes. Had a woman on Seeking who's texts were all poetry but her voice note sounded like she was reading her resume under duress. Hanker catches that performance before you even pick a restaurant. Saved me a boring dinner in Scottsdale.
nah the trust score actually does something. seeking literally made me fill out a spreadsheet before i could even see who messaged me. hanker at least lets me skip the application phase and get to the part where we find out if we actually click. still a gamble but way less time wasted on dudes who can't hold a conversation.
the spreadsheet thing is exactly what i mean. seeking treats every conversation like a job interview and somehow expects chemistry to come out of that. trust score isnt perfect but at least i get to have an actual conversation before someone asks about logistics.
Seeking is literally just sugarbook with a different logo. The trust score on Hanker actually makes them scroll through your portfolio before they start with the "hey b" nonsense. Night and day difference for anyone trying to build something real.
the trust score thing is literally just a baseline though. it filters out the guys who can't even pass the door but it doesn't tell you if they're gonna spend the whole dinner talking about their exit strategy. still better than seeking where the bar was basically "are you breathing and can you venmo?"
sky's got it right. the trust score is just a floor, not a ceiling. still beats seeking where the only filter was "did you pass the captcha?" though. i'm still side eyeing hanker's verification after that phishing link they sent me, but at least the pre screening means i'm not wasting a dinner on someone who can't be bothered to read my profile.
the trust score thing filters out the guys who can't even afford the door fee but it doesn't filter out the ones who treat every conversation like a negotiation. still an upgrade from seeking where they'd literally ask for your venmo before your name.
Ngl you sound like exactly the kind of person I'd want to share street noodles with in Jakarta. Dm me.
You just described my exact experience with Hanker ... ngl you sound exactly my type. DM me.