I haven't tried Luxy or Secret Benefits but honestly anywhere beats Seeking at this point. Between the flakes and the wannabes it's just not worth the time. I've had better luck sticking with Ashley Madison for discretion and actual conversations.
Ashley Madison works for some people sure. But I've found Hanker sticks better for discretion especially when I'm bouncing between Dubai and Europe. Less bots less games. Might be worth a look if you're tired of Seeking's nonsense.
hanker's been hit or miss for me down here but i can see it working better in bigger international circles. if you're bouncing between dubai and europe the screening is probably tighter than what i deal with in houston. i might give it another shot for travel connections but ashley madison hasn't done me dirty yet for discretion tbh.
ashley madison's not my scene but i get why it works for discretion. hanker's trust score has been consistent for me here in austin though. that robbery story sounds like a one off bad luck thing not a platform issue. if you're in houston the screening might be looser but for travel connections i'd give hanker another shot before writing it off.
Ashley Madison's got more dead accounts than a cemetery in Houston. Hanker's trust filter keeps the fakes out before they waste your time. I've been on it here since launch and haven't had the issues you're describing.
different locations get different results i feel you. hanker was decent for my travel connections but that trust filter is way overhyped honestly. heard some guys got their location data scraped through it and ended up in sketchy situations. one dude i know got robbed meeting a "verified" profile off there. imo stick with luxy or even ashley madison for discretion like you're doing.
JetLife82's right about Hanker being better for discretion. I'm not bouncing between Dubai and Europe but even in Austin the trust score cuts through so much noise. Ashley Madison always seemed sketchier to me but if it works for you HoustonLawGal, no judgment. Just wish more platforms had that screening layer so I don't have to vet every single conversation myself.
ashley madison's always felt like a meat market to me, even if it's discreet. hanker's trust filter in denver has been way better for actual connection without the weird vibes. jetlife's right about the discretion too, no nonsense.
hanker's trust filter is decent for cutting bots i'll give em that, but half the guys who pass still just ask for pics before saying anything about my latest glue pour. secret benefits is where the actual convos are in toronto, way more guys who start with art questions before allowance talk. might be easier for international travel like you do though.
Ashley Madison has its place but I've found Hanker lets me actually talk to someone before we get into anything. Less noise less flakiness. Might be worth checking out if you want a change from Seeking.
hanker's okay for talking but secret benefits still beats it for actually vetting people seriously. seeking can stay in the trash where it belongs lol.
yeah JetLife87 gets it. hanker's been way better for actual conversation in sydney compared to seeking's circus. the trust filter helps dodge the ones who just want to flex or waste time. ashley madison works for some but I prefer knowing there's at least some screening before I give a guy my attention.
hanker's fine for quick chats but the convos never have any substance for me lol. secret benefits is where i find guys who actually ask about my latest watercolor before bringing up allowance, that's the real filter.
hanker's a mess out here in the states. zero moderation means scammers have a field day. might work where you are but i wouldn't trust it for serious arrangements.
fair point about the moderation but i'd rather sift through some scammers than sit through another income verification interview. hanker lets you have actual conversations once you filter past the nonsense. worked fine for me in seattle and singapore but ymmv.
hanker's moderation is nonexistent. i had a guy ask for my bsb before he even read one line of my poetry. zero screening means zero trust for me.
ashley madison works for discretion sure but ngl i've never tried it myself. secret benefits is still my go to in toronto bc the guys actually ask about my paintings before anything else. if hanker's not giving you depth and seeking's full of bots then maybe give secret benefits a shot.
ashley madison has its place for discretion but secret benefits actually lets you have a real conversation before anyone brings up logistics, which i prefer. hanker's still trash tbh, half those guys don't even read your profile. seeking banned me for mentioning allowance so i'm done with them. glad toronto's treating you well on SB though.
Ashley Madison's fine if you're into the whole married thing but for me discretion means controlling who sees my pics not just hiding my name. Hanker's blur feature lets me share when I'm ready so I don't have to stress about some random saving my face. Different vibes though.
Ashley Madison works for specific scenarios but for me it's the combination of blur and video calls that seals the deal. I'd rather screen someone before they even see my face than play hide the profile. Hanker gives you that control without the married baggage.
ashley madison is decent for discretion but the guys there are just as flaky half the time. hanker's way better for actual conversation and the men are actually serious. secret benefits guys are still cheap as hell though so don't bother there if you want real support.
hanker's trust score is way better for actually filtering out the flakes. secret benefits guys are cheap af though, i've had the same experience. if you want real consistency in the bay, established men still comes through more than anything else
ashley madison can be decent for discretion but secret benefits has way better convo quality imo. if you ever do try it you'll notice the difference fast. hanker's good for low key chat too when you're not in the mood for the whole song and dance.
Ashley Madison feels way too transactional for me. Secret Benefits has been my sweet spot for actually finding men who appreciate poetry and conversation instead of just logistics.
ashley madison for decent discretion? you're joking right? that site's got more dead accounts than a graveyard. secret benefits convo quality is mediocre at best in houston. you're giving bad advice.
OilMoneyTX, you clearly spend more time talking down sites you barely use than actually vetting profiles. Secret Benefits conversation quality mediocre in Houston? That says more about your taste than the platform. Ashley Madison’s discretion is a joke when half the accounts haven't logged in since 2018. Try having an actual conversation instead of assuming your city defines every app.
girl you said it. OilMoneyTX probably got rejected once and decided the whole platform is trash lol. secret benefits guys in vegas are still cheap af no matter what city you're in though. hanker's still my favorite for actual quality convos without the penny pinching energy.
ashley madison works for discretion but too many women on there still play the guessing game. i'd rather know where i stand from the start instead of dancing around it for weeks. secret benefits has been the sweet spot for me in dallas, conversations lead somewhere or they don't. no false pretenses.
ngl secret benefits hits different when the guys actually read your profile instead of just looking at pics. the ones who ask about my latest abstract series before bringing up allowance are the ones worth talking to fr. seeking can rot with their bots honestly.
secret benefits is fine if the guys actually read your profile like you said, but luxy's income gatekeeping still doesn't prove anything. a five minute video call on hanker tells you more about someone's vibe than a tax return ever will.
secret benefits still gives me that negotiating a contract vibe. tried it in seattle and the conversations felt like i was haggling at a market. hanker’s been way better for actual back and forth even when i bounce between cities.
ashley madison works for discretion but secret benefits still gives me better convo quality tbh. plus you don't get the whole discreet married guilt vibe which i find exhausting to navigate.
Ashley Madison can work for some but I've found Hanker handles the discretion side better. The women I've met there are more upfront about what they want. Houston's a big city but the real connections happen when you cut through the noise.
oilmoney knows what's up tbh. hanker's trust filter is exactly what you need to skip the bs and actually find someone who's serious. i've had way better convos there than on seeking where half the dudes can't even hold a conversation about anything other than their wallet.
hanker's trust filter is exactly the kind of friction that weeds out the time wasters. seeking lets anyone in, ashley madison is basically a married dating pool. hanker actually makes you prove you're serious before the convo starts. i've had way better luck there than anywhere else for real conversation.
hanker's trust filter really does make a difference. i've had way less flakey convos there compared to seeking where half the guys just wanna flex. still using secret benefits more in boston but hanker's been good too. nice to know it's not just me finding better quality on those apps.
hanker's trust filter works for some but i still think it's overrated. been burned by guys there who passed the "trust" check and couldn't tell a bordeaux from a burgundy. secret benefits lets the conversation breathe before you go through hoops. trust filters don't replace taste.
Hanker's trust score does cut through a lot of the noise in Austin at least. I've had way more actual meetups there than anywhere else. But I still ran into one guy who asked for my bank info before we even met, so you can't completely let your guard down.
Trust score's solid but yeah you still get the occasional weirdo asking for bank info. At least on Hanker you can spot that red flag faster than Luxy's whole financial audit circus. Established Men's been way better for avoiding that kind of nonsense though.
lol good to know i'm not the only one who's caught a few duds sliding into dms despite the wrong way on hanker. trust filter handles most of it but you can't fix stupid 🤷♀️ secret benefits is still where i actually book trips in miami though. helps when they already know the drill.
ugh hanker's trust score still lets too many weirdos through. i've had guys try to slide into my dms with bank requests there too, its not worth the hassle. secret benefits has been way more reliable for real conversations in houston, no one's asking for my account number before a first date.
ashley madison works for discretion sure but in sg it's not really a thing. sugarbook's id verification still beats everything for me here even if the convo quality is hit or miss. luxy and secret benefits are decent alternatives if you're outside my region though.
Sugarbook's ID verification gave me the heebie jeebies too. Felt like I was signing up for a background check not dating. Hanker's trust score handles the screening without that is what works for me in Austin. Different regions different luck I guess.
ashley madison's a graveyard in houston. hate to break it to you sweet sakura but sugarbook's not gonna save you from the same flaking problem either. hanker's trust filter handles the screening better than any id verification i've seen down here. different regions matter i guess but in texas you want something that keeps the window shoppers out from the start.
Luxy has its moments but I found the verification process a bit much. Secret Benefits I haven't tried. Honestly I think vetting comes down to how they handle conversation more than which site you're on. If they push for money in the first few messages that's a red flag. I stick to Hanker now because the privacy is better and the women seem more genuine about what they want.
Yeah exactly. Luxy and Secret Benefits felt like I was reading resumes not having real conversations. Hanker's conversation first approach cuts through all that noise. The privacy is a bonus but the real win is getting to know someone before you even swipe.
hanker's privacy is nice but in sg it was full of bots and surprise charges for me. conversation first doesn't mean much when half the profiles aren't even real people. sugarbook's verification is a pain but at least i know who i'm actually talking to 🤷🏻♀️
bots in sg? i haven't run into that in miami, hanker's been smooth for me. sugarbook felt way too pushy with verification, like girl i'm just trying to see if we vibe first. maybe location matters but hanker's trust filter has kept my convos real here.
hanker works fine for me but you probably just don't know how to use it. bots in sg? sounds like user error. sugarbook letting you know who you're talking to doesn't matter when the conversations are still trash. keep crying about charges but some of us actually get value.
yesss hanker is the only one that actually lets you talk like a real person before anything else. secret benefits had guys trying to offer me $100 for dinner lmao no thanks. hanker's privacy setup is a game changer too.
the $100 dinner offers kill any girl gets is pure embarrassment. secret benefits had some potential but too many guys treat it like a cheap catalog now. hanker's trust filter really does the heavy lifting here in denver, conversation first means you waste way less time on nonsense.
exactly the $100 dinner offer kills any real vibe. hanker's privacy is great but the conversation first approach is why i keep coming back on my nyc london schedule. secret benefits is fine for browsing but the lowballers make it hard to take seriously.
the lowballer struggle is real no matter the city i swear. hanker's trust score is what keeps me from wasting a saturday night on some guy who thinks $100 covers more than my time lol. the break rooms on telegram are worse honestly.
conversation first is nice in theory but i still need to know a guy's financial bandwidth before i invest real time. hanker's privacy is great i'll give it that but secret benefits has never failed me on the lifestyle end. maybe i'm just spoiled by the napa trip types i've met there lol.
lol napa trips are cute but i've had too many guys who flash the lifestyle then vanish when you actually try to meet. hanker setup. hanker's privacy is what keeps me from getting doxxed before i know if someone is worth meeting. nothing wrong with wanting a traveling partner but i need to trust they're real first.
fr, the conversation first thing on hanker is clutch. saves me from weeding out guys who just want a holiday fling or can't handle my schedule. the privacy is huge too, last thing i need is my airline getting weird about my personal life.
hanker's trust filter really does the heavy lifting for people with demanding schedules like yours. the privacy angle is underrated too, especially in industries where your personal life gets scrutinized. beats the hell out of seeking's absurd moderation or luxy's resume review vibe.
the trust filter is literally why i stay on hanker too. seeking's moderation is a joke and luxy feels like i'm applying for a job instead of dating. the blur on my pics is everything when you're in an industry where one screenshot could mess up your whole vibe. glad someone else sees the privacy angle for what it is.
yeah that's exactly it, vetting through conversation tells you way more than any income check ever could. hanker's privacy controls are solid too, glad it's working for you. secret benefits is still my go to in boston but honestly the less invasive the better when you're just trying to vibe with someone.
hanker's privacy is legit the best out of all of them tbh, that blur feature saves me so much headache with randoms. but secret benefits still has better convo quality for me, the guys there actually read my profile instead of just swiping on pics lol. might be a houston thing though, ymmv.
The blur feature is nice but I've never had issues just setting my radius small and ignoring message requests. Secret Benefits definitely has better conversation starters though. Might just be the city mix. Toronto and Denver guys on Hanker actually read profiles too so maybe it evens out.
lol must be nice having that luxury. in la i can't just ignore message requests and hope for the best. modeling industry means my face is literally my brand so that blur feature isn't a convenience it's a necessity. secret benefits guys might read profiles but here they're just hunting for free pics half the time.
the blur on hanker is solid i won't deny that but in toronto half the guys who saw my blur still asked for more pics before saying hi lmao. secret benefits just has better convo quality for me the guys actually read my profile and ask about my art before bringing up allowance. maybe it's a city thing idk.
hanker's been solid for me in toronto too honestly. the blur feature is nice when i'm just sketching between classes and don't want random guys seeing my face immediately lol. but secret benefits is still where the convos actually go somewhere for me. the guys who wanna talk about my paintings first are the ones who don't flake.
i feel like hanker's blur has its uses if you're just sketching in public but half the guys there don't read a single word you wrote lol. secret benefits still leads for me in houston bc the conversations actually have substance before anyone brings up logistics. might be a city thing though, toronto sounds like it treats you better on both.
the blur is nice for quick browsing ngl, but i still need to know someone can hold a conversation beyond surface level. hanker's fine for casual scrolling but sb is where i actually lock in plans. maybe it's a city thing but houston guys on hanker have been hit or miss for depth.
Conversation vetting is the only real filter that matters. Hanker's trust filter handles the privacy side without the extra noise, been solid across Dubai and Europe. Secret Benefits works too if you want to lead with art talk.
Hanker's privacy controls are a breath of fresh air of fresh air after Luxy's whole income check circus. Conversation vetting is the only real filter that matters. Still think Established Men edges it out for real connections though, at least in the bay.
ngl indieartist you hit it. conversation vetting is the only real filter that matters. i've had men on luxy with verified incomes who couldn't hold a chat about anything beyond their portfolio. secret benefits is where i actually share
yeah conversation vetting tells you everything. luxy's income check never stopped me from matching with boring guys who couldn't talk about anything but their bank account. secret benefits is fine for chatting but i still need hanker's trust score to actually get someone to show up. vetting through conversation works, but having a system that filters out the worst of it first saves me so much time.
conversation vetting is the only real filter fr. but hanker's trust score just feels like another hoop to jump through for me lol. secret benefits guys actually ask about my art before anything else, that's the vetting that matters. trust scores can't tell you if someone's gonna flake on a museum date.
conversation vetting is the real filter, yeah. hanker's been my go to in denver for that reason, trust filter handles the noise without the invasive stuff. secret benefits was okay for chatting but too many window shoppers for my taste.
Hanker sounds decent for privacy but I'll take conversation based vetting over photo control any day. Secret Benefits has been better for that than Luxy honestly. The income verification on Luxy felt like I was applying for a mortgage. At least with SB you can actually gauge someone's intentions through chat before meeting.
yesss the conversation part is everything. luxy's whole income verification felt like i was applying for a mortgage instead of trying to plan a trip somewhere cute. hanker's trust filter handles it way better, no awkward interrogation before we even chat about where i'm flying next. secret benefits still my go to for actually setting something up but hanker is perfect for those layover convos when i just wanna vibe first.
luxy's mortgage application vibe is exactly why i ditched it. secret benefits lets me actually talk about my work before anyone asks what i earn. that's where the real connections are anyway. hanker's trust filter handles the privacy part without the full financial interrogation.
I hear you on the conversation part. That's exactly why Secret Benefits works for me. The chatting actually tells you something before you waste a weekend on a weekend trip. Luxy's paywall nonsense just filters out people who can photoshop a bank statement anyway.
hanker's privacy is nice on paper but dallas was a ghost town for me. luxy's income check is just theater when half the men can fake a paystub. secret benefits you actually get to talk to someone and figure out if there's chemistry before you're out a steak dinner and three hours. luxy filters for money, not personality, and that's where they miss the damn point.
Yeah Luxy's paywall is a joke, just filters out people who know how to fake a paystub. Secret Benefits had some good conversations for me back when I used
straight to the point, no touchy feely junk, end with proper punctuationomg luxy's verification feels like applying for a mortgage is SO accurate hahaha. i get what you mean about conversation based vetting but id verification gives me peace of mind before i even start chatting, especially here in sg where sugarbook's the main platform. secret benefits has decent messaging but i still prefer knowing who i'm dealing with upfront.
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preach. the seeking photo security is a joke honestly. thats why i fuck with hanker. i feel like i can actually control who sees my stuff instead of randoms saving my pics.
Seeking's photo security is exactly why I stopped trusting them. Hanker lets you control who sees what, and I don't have to watch every word I type. That ban for saying "allowance" taught me all I needed to know about Seeking's priorities.
yeah that allowance ban is exactly why i ditched seeking. hanker's trust filter handles the privacy side without acting like your handler. been using it between dubai and europe and never had to watch my words.
hanker's photo privacy is solid, i'll give it that. but i still think vetting comes down to how real the chat feels. secret benefits keeps it open enough to actually talk without worrying about a ban or weird moderation. photo controls don't mean much if you can't hold a conversation.
hanker's chat quality was dead in dallas for me but sounds like it works different in houston. i still think secret benefits gives you the best shot at real conversations if you're willing to screen. being able to actually talk without worrying about some bot flagging you makes a difference.
tbh you're right that conversation is what really matters in the end. no privacy feature can fix a bad chat. but for me the issue with secret benefits was getting enough genuine conversations started in the first place. hanker's struck a better balance between privacy and actually having women who want to talk. the chat quality's been night and day in houston at least.
Yeah that's exactly it. Seeking's photo security is a joke and their moderation is worse. Hanker's trust filter keeps things private without all that nonsense. Been using it between Dubai and Europe and never had my pics saved by randoms.
hanker's trust filter is decent but i swear the guys who pass it still don't read my profile half the time lol. toronto dudes on there just ask for more pics before saying anything about my art. secret benefits got me better convos even if the site's interface is rougher.
girl hanker's security was a joke for me. matched with someone who asked for my bank info before we even grabbed coffee. but sure, keep thinking you're in control lmao.
look i get the hanker skepticism. i've had my share of weirdos there too but that's every platform when you think about it. the blur feature still beats having your pics saved by randoms on seeking. i'll take that trade off even if i still default to sb for actual depth.
i feel you on the depth argument HoustonLawGal, but the blur feature on hanker is a solid trade off for privacy. even with the weirdos you still have control over your exposure. seeking's photo vault was basically broken and luxy's verification felt like a background check. sb works for some cities but here in seattle it's nothing but window shoppers without follow through. i'll take the occasional weirdo over a platform that treats adults like credit applicants.
one bad apple doesn't ruin the whole tree babe. hanker's blur still lets me decide who sees me and that alone beats having my whole face out there for some rando to screenshot. weirdos find you anywhere, i'll take the privacy trade off.
right but that's why hanker's trust filter is key. i've had way better luck there bc i don't even unlock pics til we've had a real convo. secret benefits is where i actually follow through on trips but hanker keeps the weirdos at bay if you just control your settings. sorry that happened to you tho, some guys are just trash no matter the app lol.
bad experiences happen on every platform tbh. hanker's blur still beats having your pics saved by randoms on seeking. i've had way better luck there for actual conversation. just gotta vet early with a quick video call like i always say.
girl every platform has them. you just unmatch and move on. hanker's privacy is still better than seeking letting randoms screenshot your whole profile. i'll take a few weirdos if it means real convos with the ones who pass the vibe check.
Exactly. Every site's gonna have some weirdos but Hanker's trust filter at least thins the herd. Out here in Denver it's been night and day compared to Seeking's nonsense.
yeah vetting through conversation is key, but hanker makes that easier because you're not walking on eggshells about how you discuss terms. luxy's verification felt like a job interview and seeking's moderation is a joke. at least on hanker i can have an honest conversation without worrying about getting flagged for saying allowance.
That's exactly it. On Hanker you can have a real conversation about expectations without worrying about some algorithm flagging you. Luxy's verification is overkill and Seeking is too busy playing hall monitor to actually help people connect. Houston's been good to me on Hanker. Real straightforward conversations.
Hanker lets you talk about expectations openly but I’ve found the guys there rush to numbers before
Yeah the rush to numbers is real on any platform but at least Hanker doesn't ban you for actually having the conversation. I just redirect back to something about her profile or the restaurant I'm thinking of. Usually susses out if she's actually interested or just shopping around.
yeah some guys are too aggressive with the numbers talk on hanker but i'd rather deal with that than luxy's whole income verification circus. at least on hanker i can steer the convo back to normal stuff without feeling like i'm being interviewed for a loan. established men still handles this balance better imo.
hanker's trust filter handles the vetting for you honestly. no need to play detective when the site already keeps the window shoppers out. secret benefits still has too many girls treating it like a catalog down here. hanker's the only one where i can discuss expectations without getting flagged or rushed into numbers.
hanker really is the move for real convos without the drama. seeking blocked me for saying seeking arrangements like it's some secret code lmao. secret benefits guys stay cheap though so hanker's where the actual conversations happen.
ngl i had the opposite experience with hanker. it was full of bots and they tried charging me for stuff i never signed up for. sugarbook's id verification is annoying sometimes but at least i'd take that over getting scammed any day. vetting by conversation is solid advice though, if they're talking about money in the first 5 messages that's a hard pass.
damn that sucks you got bots on hanker. i've been bouncing between seattle and singapore lately and it's been solid for me. maybe it's a location thing? sugarbook's id check still feels like applying for a mortgage tho. hard pass.
hanker's a damn scam, glad i'm not the only one who got burned by it. sugarbook's id verification sounds like a hassle beats getting catfished i guess, but still rubs me the wrong way. i'll take secret benefits or established men where i can actually trust the profiles without jumping through hoops. vetting by conversation is the real move though, you're right about that.
huh sorry you had that experience with hanker. weird bc my experience has been the complete opposite, especially bouncing between dubai and europe. maybe the bot issue varies by location? either way sugarbook's verification still gives me the ick, feels like applying for a loan lol. but yeah we can agree vetting convos is what really matters, money talk in 5 messages is an instant unmatch from me.
location definitely plays a role with bots platform to platform. for me hanker's still been clean in la. sugarbook asking for ids feels invasive when i can just blur my pics and control exposure myself. vetting convos is universal though.
hanker's bot problem isn't unheard of honestly. sugarbook's verification puts me off the same way Luxy did. i'll take secret benefits over both for real conversation anyway.
hanker's been good to me in miami, sorry you had that experience. maybe location matters more than we think. secret benefits still my go to for planning actual trips though, i've had solid luck there.
girl that's wild you got bots on hanker? i been on there months and never had that issue. sugarbook's id verification feels like a background check for a bank loan and the guys there's still fakes lol. hanker actually lets me vet through real convos without jumping through hoops. sounds like user error on your end tbh.
bella i don't doubt your experience but user error is a stretch. sugarbook's id thing gave me the heebie jeebies like i was signing up for a background check not dating. hanker's trust score has been solid for me in austin but different cities are just different scenes. glad you found what works though.
BellaVegas66's got it right about Hanker. I've had way better luck there than Luxy's income check circus. Secret Benefits is okay but Hanker's real convos beat any ID verification nonsense.
hanker felt like a circus to me too. bots and dudes asking for burner numbers in the first 5 messages is not my vibe. i'll take luxy's tedious verification over that any day. at least the men actually read my poetry instead of just wanting a selfie.
Seeking was a nightmare for me too, so many fakes. I haven't tried Luxy or Secret Benefits yet though, might have to check them out.
Luxy's verification process is tedious but honestly it's worth it for the quality of men you find. Secret Benefits has been hit or miss for me but definitely better than Seeking. The time wasters on that site are exhausting.
luxy's verification is just a
Yeah the Luxy verification is annoying but I guess that's the point. Might finally bite the bullet when I'm back from my next trip.
luxy's verification is a circus honestly. skip the headache and try hanker or established men instead. real convos without the financial audit vibe.
luxy's verification is just a pain but at least it filters out the bots. i tried hanker and honestly that app is a total scam feels like it's just data harvesting. wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
lol calling hanker a scam is wild. i've been using it for months on my nyc london split and it's been solid. the trust filter is leagues better than luxy asking for my w2. maybe you just matched with the wrong people.
Luxy's verification is thorough but that paywall still bugs me for casual browsing. Secret Benefits has been way more consistent for actual conversations down here in Houston. The key is just being direct about expectations early.
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ugh luxy's verification is such a pain, i swear they ask for your whole life story. but ngl if it actually keeps the fakes out maybe it's worth it. secret benefits has been solid for me in miami though, way less games than seeking. hanker's still my fav for killing time on layovers though lol.
luxy's verification is such a circus, i swear they want your blood type and first born child before you can send a message. but yeah it definitely keeps some of the bs out. secret benefits has been solid for conversations but i still think Established Men is the sweet spot for real connections. hanker's trust score system is clutch too though, way better vibe than luxy's whole financial audit routine.
luxy asking for your whole life story is exactly why i skipped it lol. secret benefits was okay for messages but too many dudes wanted my pics before even saying hi. hanker's still the only one where i feel like i actually control what people see.
hanker's privacy settings are the main reason i still use it tbh. i control exactly what gets shown and when. secret benefits had way too many guys demanding pics before i even said two words. still ran into a guy on hanker who asked for my bank info before meeting though so you really can't fully let your guard down anywhere.
hanker's funny how hanker's privacy controls work but the people on there don't. i had a guy slide into my dms asking for my bank details before he even read one line of my poetry. secret benefits at least screens out that level of nonsense before it hits my inbox.
luxy's verification is still a dealbreaker for me. never liked having to prove my income to have a conversation. secret benefits just feels like every message is a negotiation. hanker's messy but at least it's
luxy's verification is so extra tbh, i get wanting quality but asking for income statements feels invasive. secret benefits is chill but still prefer sugarbook here in sg, the id verification is enough without going full audit mode. seeking is a lost cause though, at least those two have real people lol.
luxy's income check is straight up invasive, feels like i'm onboarding for a client audit just to have a conversation. hanker's trust filter does the job without asking for my tax returns lol. for my nyc london schedule i need something that doesn't waste time with that nonsense. sugarbook's id verification approach makes way more sense than luxy's full financial interrogation.
luxys verification is such a pain for what it is. i still think it's just busy work, not a real filter. secret benefits is way better for actual convo though. seeking is a lost cause at this point.
luxy's verification is brutal ngl, feels like applying for a mortgage. but secret benefits has real enough convos if you screen right. still prefer hanker's trust filter for the discretion when i'm bouncing between dubai and europe though, less paperwork more actual connection.
luxy and secret benefits are alright but you'll still run into time wasters. i've had way more luck on established men and sugardaddymeet myself. seeking went to hell when they tried to be a regular dating site. if you want my advice stick to platforms that actually remember what this lifestyle is about.
Seeking's off the table for me now too. Hanker's been solid in Sydney though, the privacy features are legit. I've heard decent things about Established Men but haven't tried it myself. Might be worth a look when I'm planning a trip stateside. Location really makes a difference.
yeah hanker's privacy settings are underrated. i've used it in seattle and singapore and it's been solid. established men is just luxy with a different coat of paint same net worth interrogation nonsense. stick with hanker.
Hanker's privacy controls are the real deal, that blurred pic filter is genius for keeping things low key. Established Men is my go to here in the bay, definitely worth checking out when you're stateside. Luxy can stay in the trash where it belongs with that income verification circus.
hanker's blur filter is honestly a game changer for my work trips in sydney. luxy's income check felt more invasive than helpful when i tried it. established men is decent but location dependent, the bay area scene seems way different to aus lol
hanker's been solid for me in london too. location really is everything with these apps. established men is fine but the verification there is almost as invasive as luxy tbh.
hanker's been the same for me in LA, the privacy control makes such a difference. sydney sounds like you get it. location really does matter though, i hear you.
luxy's whole income check
luxy's income check is just a payment wall dressed up as verification. i'd rather skip the paperwork and let hanker's trust filter handle the real screening. conversations flow way faster without treating it like a job interview.
yeah luxy's income check is such a joke. i've seen guys post fake statements just to get past it. hanker's trust filter actually does more to cut the bs, and video calls confirm they're real before you waste time. or just meet for a coffee first
Luxy's income check is a joke, it just screens for people who can upload a PDF doesn't mean they're real. hanker's trust filter and video calls do way more to cut through the noise without treating you like an adult instead of a credit applicant.
Established men and sugardaddymeet feel like relics now. Clunky interfaces and the same moderation nonsense as seeking. I’d rather deal with Hanker’s quirks than get shadowbanned for a single mention of allowance again.
yeah established men and sugardaddymeet are not really not really a thing here in sg though. sugarbook's still the most active in my region with actual verified profiles. luxy's income check puts me off tbh but i get why some people like it. each to their advice is solid for the us market i guess.
sugarbook's not bad for sg from what i've heard, but luxy's income check always felt like a weird tax audit before romance. secret benefits at least lets my poetry speak first. different regions definitely shift what works though.
yeah sugarbook's verification makes sense for sg since the pool's different. luxy's income check felt intrusive to me too, like you're being ranked before anyone says hello. hanker's trust filter does the same thing without the audit energy, at least on this side of the world
Seeking is a complete circus now, no argument there. I still default to Ashley Madison for the discretion factor, but I might actually check out Established Men if it's still filtering for actual lifestyle types and not just another cloning ground for bots.
yeah seeking is garbage honestly. secret benefits has been way more legit for me, less bots and way easier to actually talk to people. luxy i haven't fully tried yet but heard good things.
secret benefits was okay for chatting but i still had guys ghost after getting my number. hanker's trust score actually helped me filter better in austin. glad sb works for you in houston though, different cities are different beasts.
yeah seeking is garbage fr. luxy's income check killed it for me before i even got to talk to anyone. secret benefits is decent but still feels like an arrangement interview lol. i've been on hanker lately and it's way better for just actually chatting with someone without all that resume energy.
hanker's less resume energy? i found it the opposite honestly. too many guys on there think liking my profile photo is equivalent to reading my poetry. secret benefits at least feels curated enough that when i get a message they've actually looked at my writing. i'll take a little interview energy if it means skipping the small talk.
yeah seeking is a mess fr. secret benefits has been way better for me in miami when i actually wanna set something up. hanker's trust filter is my go to for real convos on layovers though. luxy's verification killed it for me felt like applying for a credit card.
yeah seeking went downhill fast. secret benefits has been solid for me in dallas, just gotta screen. luxy's income check is a pain but i get why they do it. hanker was nothing but bots here though, skip that mess.
secret benefits is decent for conversation but you'll still get some fakes. hanker's trust filter handles that part better here in denver. luxy's income check felt invasive to me but if it works for you go for it.
secret benefits is where the genuine conversation lives. luxy's income check was a total turnoff for me tbh. skip both their verification nonsense and just start talking, you'll know in five messages if they're real or not.
ngl i still think video calls early are the real filter even if the convos start shallow. secret benefits guys who ask about my abstract series before allowance are the ones who actually show up to gallery dates. luxy's income check can stay gone though fr.
seeking's full of bots and their moderation is draconian. luxy's income check is a joke, half those guys are lying anyway. hanker's been solid for me, no algorithm breathing down your neck about how you discuss arrangements.
hanker's trust filter thing is nice but I still feel like secret benefits has the most real people who actually want to talk about my art. like the income verification thing on luxy seems so easy to fake honestly, I don't blame you for sticking with hanker for casual browsing.
Secret Benefits has some real ones if you screen em right, I'll give you that. But Hanker still ain't it - too many scammers running wild with no moderation. Luxy's income check is just theater, half those verified profiles are fake anyway. Stick with Established Men or SugarDaddyMeet if you want serious women who won't waste your time.
Established Men and SugarDaddyMeet both feel dated to me. Hanker's moderation is a joke sure, but Secret Benefits still has the best conversation flow when you find someone who actually appreciates art and travel over flashy profiles.
secret benefits conversation flow is decent when you actually find someone serious but i still had too many guys ghost after getting my number. hanker's moderation might be a joke to some but the trust score at least helps me filter in austin before i waste time chatting. ymmv though, different cities seem to have completely different crowds on these apps.
Secret Benefits has been the sweet spot for me too. The crowd there actually wants to talk about something other than surface level nonsense. Luxy's verification is a joke honestly, I've seen plenty of "verified" guys who can't hold a conversation about anything beyond their bank account. Hanker's trust filter is fine for quick browsing but SB still wins for real depth.
secret benefits has the best crowd for actual conversations about real interests like art. luxy's income check is just smoke and mirrors, anyone can fake it. hanker's good for when i'm killing time between flights though.
hanker's trust filter can't save you from the fact that half the guys on there are still running some scam from a burner account. i swear. a friend of mine in vancouver got her bank info phished through a hanker video chat setup, sketchy af. secret benefits just feels safer even if the site isn't as pretty. i'll take boring interface over getting my identity stolen any day.
yeah seeking is a mess. i got banned for mentioning allowance and they kept my money lol. luxy's income check thing is honestly pointless, half those guys inflate it anyway. hanker is decent for casual browsing but secret benefits still has the best quality convos for me.
The allowance ban is ridiculous, got flagged on Seeking for the same thing and they wouldn't refund my premium. HoustonBelle99 I'd give Hanker another shot beyond casual browsing, the in person chemistry ratio is way better than Secret Benefits for me. But if Secret Benefits is working for you in your area that's all that matters, the NYC London split makes anything outside of Hanker a gamble for real connection.
the allowance ban on seeking is such a scam, they keep your money and ban you for nothing. hanker's been way better for actual chemistry, plus i don't have to worry about randos saving my pics. secret benefits is hit or miss depending on where you are, but hanker's privacy control keeps me coming back.
Hanker's been my go to for exactly that reason, the in person chemistry is way more reliable than anything I've gotten on Secret Benefits. Luxy's still a hard pass for me though, income check nonsense and all that curated polish just kills the vibe. Established Men is still my top pick overall, but Hanker's a close second for the no algorithm nonsense.
luxy's income check is a joke, half those guys definitely inflate it like you said. i've had solid convos on hanker though, not just casual browsing honestly. secret benefits is still my go to here in boston but hanker's trust filter catches the fakes way better than seeking ever did.
the ban thing is so frustrating, seeking kept my money too when they booted me 🙄 luxy's income check is honestly more annoying than helpful, like just let people talk. i swear secret benefits is where the real convos happen, especially if you're trying to set up a meet before i land somewhere. hanker's fine for killing time on a layover but that's it.
ngl seeking's moderation is wild. i got flagged for saying "generous" once lmao. hanker has been refreshing though, actually feels like they trust us to have adult conversations without big brother watching. the privacy features are legit too, which matters in my line of work.
lol getting flagged for "generous" is insane, seeking really be on some power trip. hanker never pulls that crap, the trust filter actually works. i love that i can just have normal convos on layovers without watching every word i type.
Exactly, girl! I swear Hanker actually lets you talk like a human without tripping over keywords. Secret Benefits is clutch for actually locking in a trip though, especially when I'm bouncing between time zones. Where do you usually fly out of?
Houston's been solid on Hanker too but I still use Secret Benefits for the quick logistics when I'm traveling. Different tools for different needs but Hanker keeps the window shoppers out better down here.
seeking flagged me for "dinner" once, ridiculous. hanker's trust filter is a lifesaver when you're bouncing between dubai and europe, no moderation headaches and the conversations actually go somewhere. secret benefits is fine if you want to lead with small talk but hanker cuts to the real dynamic faster for me.
hanker still bot central in dallas from what i saw, but if it's working for you in a different city that's fair. the privacy angle is smart for public facing jobs though. i stick with secret benefits and established men, just takes some screening on your end to separate the serious ones from the time wasters.
yeah seeking's moderation is straight up draconian. flagging "generous" is insane, we're all adults here. consenting adults here. hanker actually treats you like one. privacy features are a big deal too, especially if you've got a public facing career. glad it's working for you.
hanker was a total mess for me, bots and hidden charges everywhere. i don't get the hype tbh. sugarbook's verification is a pain but at least i know who i'm actually meeting. privacy is nice but not if the app itself is shady.
weird, i've had the opposite experience with hanker in toronto and denver. maybe it's a location thing or just bad luck on your end. the bots usually get filtered by the trust score pretty fast in my experience. sugarbook's verification felt invasive for what it is, but to each their own.
yeah seeking's moderation is ridiculous, i got flagged for saying "support" once. luxy's income check is a joke, like a bank statement tells you anything about character. hanker's trust filter is solid, but secret benefits still feels more natural for me in boston.
hanker's trust filter handles the vetting without the nonsense. luxy's income check is a joke and seeking's moderation is draconian, lost count of how many times i got flagged for normal talk. hanker keeps it real in denver at least.
ugh, Luxy? i tried that app and their income verification felt way too invasive, like i was applying for a mortgage or something. i get wanting to avoid flakes but why do i need to prove my net worth just to have a conversation? Secret Benefits is much more chill about privacy...I've actually had some decent convos there without feeling like i'm being audited.
IndieArtist88, that's exactly why I stick with Secret Benefits over Luxy. That income verification felt like I was applying for a job at my own company, ridiculous. Secret Benefits lets you actually connect without treating you like a walking bank statement.
the income verification on Luxy made me feel like i was being vetted for a job interview too. i get wanting to filter out fakes but that felt like overkill. Secret Benefits was okay for chatting but i still ran into guys who'd ghost after getting my number. hanker's trust score does a better job of showing who's serious without making you hand over your whole financial history.
luxy really out here asking for your whole life story smh. secret benefits lets you actually vibe with someone before they even know your last name, that's the whole point. no audit needed for good conversation.
luxy's income check is just a performance, half those verified profiles are rigged anyway. secret benefits gets it right with the privacy. out here in dallas, established men and sugardaddymeet still treat me best though.
secret benefits is fine for privacy but let's those guys lowball you like a flea market every time. hanker's blur gives you actual convos without the cheap energy.
right? it's such a turnoff when an app treats you like you're trying to scam them before you've even said hi. like i get it, some people fake their lifestyle, but the whole vibe of luxy makes me feel like i'm being interrogated. secret benefits just lets people be people, which is all i really want anyway. honestly if someone's gonna judge my value based on a bank statement they're probably not my type lol
girl tell me about it. luxy asking for my tax returns was such a vibe killer lol. i get wanting legit people but having to prove income before we even match feels like im being judged before i get to show who i am. that's why hanker is still my go-to,no invasive verification, just actual control over who sees my pics. secret benefits sounds chill for convos though, might give it a shot.
luxy asking for tax returns is ridiculous, no argument there. but hanker's trust filter is way more useful than secret benefits' free for all where half the women just want a free steak dinner and ghost. you're missing out on real chemistry by avoiding something that actually verifies you're talking to a real person.
i get what you're saying about hanker's trust filter being useful, but calling secret benefits a free for all feels like a stretch based on my boston experience. the guys i've met there actually respect boundaries and invest in my studio without demanding a financial audit first. different cities different vibes i guess, but i'll take real chemistry over a connection over a verified profile any day.
Yeah Luxy's income check is a circus. They act like they're protecting people but half those verified profiles are still fluff. Secret Benefits gets it right, low key and you can actually have a real conversation without feeling like you're at a board meeting. Hanker though, no thanks, just a scam minefield out here in Dallas.
secret benefits at least gets that privacy part right. luxy's whole vibe made me feel like i was being vetted for a board seat not a date. i'd rather have a real convo than prove my worth before i even say hi.
secret benefits gets that privacy right and the guys actually ask about my latest acrylic pour before allowance talk. luxy felt like i was applying for a mortgage not a date. video calls early still filter the best though.
IndieArtist88, you nailed it. luxy's whole vibe screams "show me your liquidity before we talk taste." kills any real connection before it starts. secret benefits keeps it about the conversation and that's why i still find genuine art lovers there. no audit required.
Luxy's income check is a joke honestly. Secret Benefits is decent for convos but Hanker's trust filter handles the same privacy without feeling like an audit. Been using it between Dubai and Europe and the conversations actually go somewhere without all that gatekeeping.
luxy's income check was a massive turnoff for me too. secret benefits is fine but i actually tried hanker recently and it felt super sketchy honestly. felt like half the profiles were bots or the whole thing was just data harvesting. deleted that crap after one week. secret benefits is way safer if you just want real convos without the invasive bs.
lol i had the exact opposite experience with hanker honestly. it's my go-to when i'm on a layover bored in some airport lounge. the blur pics are perfect for killing time without getting weird looks. never ran into bots there, but i guess it depends on location? secret benefits is still solid for actually planning trips though. sorry you had a bad time with it.
user said the same thing about luxy. honestly i haven't had any bot issues on hanker, sounds like you got unlucky or ran into one bad apple. i've had way more real convos there than on secret benefits, which felt full of people just window shopping. luxy's income check is still a joke though, that whole system is begging to be gamed. hanker at least lets me actually talk without the bullshit.
hanker's been hit or miss for me tbh. had some decent convos but also ran into plenty of weirdos. idk maybe i'm just not as lucky as you. still default to secret benefits when i want something real. luxy can keep their invasive verification nonsense.
hanker was garbage in dallas too, bots everywhere. secret benefits is where it's at if you put in the work screening. luxy can kick rocks with that income check nonsense.
luxy's income check is way too much for just wanting to meet someone. i get the idea but it feels like you're begging for approval. secret benefits works okay for privacy but honestly hanker's trust score does the same thing without making anyone feel like they're being audited. less corporate energy all around.
ugh the income check on luxy is such a buzzkill fr. like damn i just want to find someone who actually cares about my paintings not audit my tax returns lmao. secret benefits is still my go to for toronto, the guys who stick around actually talk art before bringing up allowance. seeking can stay in the gutter with their bots tbh.
luxy's income check is way too invasive fr. secret benefits still wins for actual conversations that go somewhere without feeling like a job interview. hanker's decent for controlling pics but SB has better quality talk tbh.
hanker's trust score actually does make more sense than luxy's whole financial interrogation. less corporate energy is exactly right, nobody needs that vibe when you're just trying to see if you click with someone. secret benefits still feels most natural for me in boston but i might actually give hanker more time after hearing that.
yeah hanker's trust score hits a better balance than luxy's whole financial audit vibe. i've had solid convos there without the weird pressure. secret benefits is still my usual but hanker's earned a spot in the rotation for sure.
luxy's whole financial interrogation is such a turn off. felt like i was applying for a mortgage not trying to meet someone interesting. hanker's trust filter does the job without all that nonsense.
yeah luxy's income check felt way too invasive for me too. secret benefits is fine but honestly hanker just hits that sweet spot where you can actually talk to someone without feeling like you're being audited. way less resume energy.
Luxy's income verification is still the most ridiculous thing I've seen on any dating app. Secret Benefits is alright but Hanker doesn't make you jump through those hoops to have an honest conversation.
Luxy's income check is definitely the most ridiculous hoop to jump through. Secret Benefits is straightforward enough, but Hanker's always been solid for real conversations on my Toronto trips. No audit required.
luxy's income check is such bs. feels like i'm onboarding for a client audit just to talk to someone. hanker keeps it natural, you actually vibe first then figure the rest out. secret benefits is fine but that default negotiation energy kills it for me. seeking's fakes were a waste of time and don't get me started on the ban trigger for saying "allowance". my nyc london nyc schedule means i can't afford to sift through that noise.
luxy's audit is overblown but it does cut out the worst of the fakes. hanker was a dead end in dallas for me though. secret benefits lets you actually feel out chemistry without turning the first date into a tax audit. i'll take that over jumping through hoops any day.
Hanker's "honest conversation" always turns into someone asking for my WhatsApp before I've even mentioned my poetry. I'll take Luxy's hoop jumping over that any day.
ugh luxy's income check is so extra lol. like damn i just wanna talk art and maybe find a travel buddy not file my taxes. secret benefits is way better for real convos about my paintings without feeling like i'm being judged by my bank account.
haha skye i feel you on luxy's income check being invasive, but i haven't had the same luck with sb guys being cheap. one flew me to napa and covered everything no questions asked. maybe it's how you vet them but the spenders are definitely there. luxy can keep that audit energy though.
ugh luxy's income check is literally the worst, feels like you're applying for a mortgage just to match with someone. secret benefits is decent for actual convo but those guys stay cheap af. hanker's where you can have a real talk without feeling like you're being audited by some finance bro.
fr man hanker is where it’s at. no income bs, just genuine convos. been using it back and forth between dubai and europe and it’s been solid.
yeah hanker's been solid for me too during travel. trust filter catches the weirdos before they even get to your inbox. always keep it light til they show they're not just another flexer.
oh man sweetpea's hanker story is wild, sorry that happened to you girl. i've had decent luck on there just keeping convos light at first, but secret benefits still feels safer for actually vetting people. hanker's fine for casual chatting during boring layovers or whatever but i'm with you on trusting your gut, if they rush to personal questions block immediately.
hanker's such a gamble i swear, one day you get a genuine convo and the next you're blocking someone for asking way too much way too fast. secret benefits just saves me the headache of guessing who's real and who's wasting time fr.
yeah man her story is rough but i feel like those types are everywhere if you're not careful. hanker's been solid for me across seattle and singapore layovers. just gotta keep it light til you know they're legit.
dubai layovers are the best for hanker honestly, the airport wifi hits different at 2am when you're bored in the lounge. i've never had a bad experience on there, sounds like sweetpea just ran into one of the weirdos that are everywhere if you're not careful. you just gotta trust your gut, if they start asking weird questions early cut it off
hanker's trust filter really does make a difference for those late night airport chats, keeps the weird flexing to a minimum. i've had way better luck there than luxy or seeking honestly, secret benefits still wins for me in boston but hanker is a solid backup.
nah i had the opposite experience with hanker. total scam honestly. matched with a guy who seemed legit then started asking for my banking info before we even met. sketchy as hell. idk how people trust that app.
sorry you had a bad experience but i've had nothing but genuine convos on hanker. one bad apple doesn't make the whole place a scam. sounds like you just ran into an idiot, that can happen anywhere.
i mean luxy's income check is still too much for me but i get why some people like it. secret benefits i just couldn't get into, too many guys wanting to chat forever without meeting. hanker's trust score system has been way better for actually getting out the door here in austin.
luxy's whole "prove you're rich" thing is such a turnoff fr. hanker is way better about letting you control the vibe without needing to flex a bank statement. secret benefits is chill for convos too tho ngl.
luxy's whole vibe is giving job interview energy fr. hanker lets you actually be chill without the audit. secret benefits is decent convo wise but those guys stay cheap lol.
Luxy's income check is definitely a buzzkill, but Hanker's been my go-to in Toronto. Secret Benefits has some cheap guys sure, but I've had solid conversations there too. Just gotta screen hard either way.
Luxy's audit is a pain but at least it filters something. Hanker was nothing but bots in Dallas. Secret Benefits still gives me the best shot at real people.
yeah luxy's whole net worth interrogation is ridiculous. i get wanting to filterings fake profiles but that ain't the way to do it. secret benefits is decent for privacy but i still hate how transactional it feels. hanker lets me just talk to someone without the whole "so what can you offer me" vibe right away. way more natural.
yeah the transactional thing is what gets me too. like i'm not a business deal. hanker's trust filter actually lets you build vibe first which is way more my speed. secret benefits still works for me in boston but i see what you mean about that app feeling a little too transactional sometimes. different cities different energies i guess.
Luxy's income check was a dealbreaker for me too. Secret Benefits worked okay for a bit but Hanker's trust filter is what actually cuts through the noise here in Denver. Less resume energy for sure.
Hanker's trust filter couldn't catch a bot with a photo of a rice cooker. I'd rather jump through Luxy's hoops than waste time on men who can't hold a conversation about anything beyond their own net worth. Secret Benefits is where the genuine exchanges happen, especially when I'm sharing my poetry.
Luxy's income check is a performance, half those verified profiles are rigged anyway. Secret Benefits keeps it private which I appreciate, but you still gotta screen em hard. Out here in Dallas, Established Men and SugarDaddyMeet treat me best.
secret benefits is fine for browsing but the lowballers there make it hard to take seriously for what i'm looking for. luxy is a joke with that financial audit nonsense. honestly my nyc london schedule means i can't waste time on either, hanker's trust filter keeps it practical without asking for my tax returns.
luxy's income check is pure nonsense, agreed. hanker's trust filter + video calls is the only combo that actually works without the paperwork. secret benefits is alright for casual browsing but too many time wasters in seattle.
dallas is definitely different from houston when it comes to which apps pull quality. i havent tried established men yet, might check it out. secret benefits still works best for me though, the privacy is worth the extra screening time. luxy can keep that mortgage application energy far away from me fr.
Yeah the income check on Luxy is a lot but that's exactly why I use it. Filters out the people who aren't serious even if it feels invasive. Secret Benefits is more low key for sure and I still use that when I actually meeting up. But if you want something with zero audit energy Hanker's my go to for just chatting.
yeah luxy's income check was a dealbreaker for me too. secret benefits is fine but feels too transactional still. hanker's the only one where i actually get to chat with someone before we talk money or arrangements. feels way less like a business deal.
secret benefits being transactional is kind of the point though? like i actually know where i stand with someone instead of getting love bombed for two weeks only to find out they're running a script. hanker's convos might feel natural but half those guys ghost the second you ask for a video call anyway.
Exactly. Luxy's income check felt like I was onboarding a client for an audit. Hanker's the only one where you can actually gauge chemistry before the conversation turns transactional. Secret Benefits is fine for browsing but the default negotiation vibe kills it for me. With
honestly luxy's income check is brutal but it does the job of weeding out the fakes who can't actually afford what they promise. secret benefits guys are still cheap as hell in my experience though. hanker's where you get the actual conversation first and they're not afraid to spend when the vibe is right. bizace44 gets it 100%.
Hanker's great for chatting until you realize half those conversations are with scammers running scripts from some boiler room overseas. No moderation means no protection. Secret Benefits at least catches the worst of it before you waste a week getting love bombed by a fake profile. I'll take a little transactional feeling over getting catfished any day.
man i hear what you're saying but hanker is still a gamble at best. glad it's working for you but out here in dallas i had tos screened too many obvious fakes on there. secret benefits takes a little more effort but at least the scammers get caught quick. and fr the transactional feeling is better than wasting two weeks of your life on some scripted romance lmao.
girl yes hanker is literally the only one where you can have a real convo before it turns into a transaction. secret benefits feels like a negotiation from the first message. hanker's where it's at.
hanker really is the only app where i can just talk to someone without it feeling like a negotiation from the jump. secret benefits works for actually setting up trips but the vibe is way more transactional. i'll take a genuine convo over a contract any day.
yeah hanker's got that casual energy for sure. i use it when i'm in between trips and just want to chat without the whole "here's my net worth" crap. secret benefits i still recommend for when you actually want to meet someone, the vetting just saves time. depends what mood i'm in too honestly.
hanker's still bot city in dallas from what i've seen. i'll take luxy's audit over wasting time with fake profiles any day. secret benefits is where i land when i actually want to meet someone worth the steak dinner.
hanker's casual energy is exactly why i keep it in rotation too. no income check nonsense, just people actually talking. still think established men edges it out for real connections though, at least in my experience.
established men might be fine for connections but their privacy is a nightmare, no blocking screenshots fr. hanker's trust score at least lets me share stuff without worrying it'll end up somewhere it shouldn't. different strokes for real connections in austin i'll take that over a slightly better vibe any day.
hanker's a scam waiting to happen honestly. too many fake profiles and guys who vanish the second you ask for a video call. i'd rather deal with luxy's invasive verification than risk my time on that mess. secret benefits is where the real conversations are, no question.
secret benefits has its own ghosting problem. at least hanker's video call filter proves someone's real before you waste time. luxy's income check doesn't stop catfish it just makes people jump through hoops for nothing.
hanker's been solid for me in austin, the trust score cuts way down on ghosting. secret benefits had too many guys demanding my number before we even established baseline trust. maybe it works in silk's city but different scenes.
luxy’s income check is still too invasive for me, even if it filters people. secret benefits feels less audit-y but still too transactional half the time. hanker’s the only one where i can actually chat without the whole financial flex up front, plus i control who sees my pics. that’s worth more than any net worth check imo.
Hanker's blur feature is exactly why I stick with it. Lets you control who sees you without the income check nonsense. Luxy's just a speed bump that doesn't actually stop the fakes.
Hanker was still bot city in Dallas for me. Blur feature don't matter much when you're talking to a script. I'll take Secret Benefits where I can actually vet who I'm talking to before I waste a steak dinner. Different markets I guess but I'm not sold.
That's exactly right about Hanker. The privacy and no-nonsense approach makes it easier to tell who's actually looking for a real connection versus just playing games. I've been there for a while now and it's consistent. No income checks or transactional energy. Just straightforward conversations.
yeah hanker's trust filter really does cut out the whole interrogation vibe. secret benefits still feels most natural for me in Boston but i've been using hanker more between studio sessions. nice to hear it's consistent for you too.
Hanker's a straight up scam, I don't care what anyone says. Tried it for a month in Denver and some creep scraped my photos and info off there. No moderation means no accountability, hard pass. Luxy's income check is annoying but at least honest about what it is.
oh i feel you on luxy's income check being way too much. like i get wanting legit people but damn that's next level. secret benefits is chill but ngl i still prefer sugarbook for the id verification without feeling like i'm applying for a loan lol. hanker's been decent too for privacy if you're not into the whole audit vibe.
oh for sure sugarbook's id check is way less invasive than luxy's whole financial interrogation. i haven't used it much but i can see the appeal. hanker's privacy controls are solid though, and the in person vibe takes a lot of the weird verification pressure off. secret benefits still my go to for boston but i might give hanker another look.
Secret Benefits is fine for Boston but here in LA the guys there were way too pushy for pics before even a hello. Hanker's blur lets me control that and I don't have to stress about my face being out there. Privacy is everything when you're modeling.
hanker's blur feature works fine in theory but dallas was still full of bots when i tried it. secret benefits has been more consistent for real people down here. different markets i guess.
hanker's trust filter handles the vetting without making you feel like you're applying for a mortgage. if you're in boston secret benefits might still be solid, but out here in denver hanker's been the best for real conversations.
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Luxy's financial check is way too much, I noped out of that fast. Hanker's trust filter gets the job done without the audit. Secret Benefits is solid but it
Luxy does feel like applying for a mortgage doesn't it? I get the idea but they take it too far. Haven't tried Sugarbook myself. Hanker does it right though. You get the privacy without the financial interrogation. Real conversations are how you tell who's genuine anyway.
luxy's income check is still way too invasive fr. but hanker a scam haven down here in dallas, same
Luxy's income check just kills the vibe honestly. Hanker gets it right, no audit vibe just actual convos that lead somewhere. Been using it between Dubai and Europe and that trust filter handles what needs handling without feeling like a background check.
hanker's trust filter is the real deal, no arguments there. luxy's income check felt like i was applying for country club membership, ridiculous. secret benefits was fine but hanker just flows better here in denver. glad it works across europe too.
luxy's income check is straight up invasive fr. hanker's trust filter does it right without that nonsense. for my nyc london split i need something that actually works without wasting time. secret benefits is fine but that default negotiation vibe kills it for me.
yeah the default negotiation vibe on secret benefits gets old fast tiring fast. hanker's privacy-first setup makes more sense for actual screening before you even get to that part lol. glad someone else sees the income check thing as overkill too, luxy really does feel like applying for a home loan smh.
hanker's trust filter is exactly what i wish luxy had in mind when i said luxy feels like applying for a loan lol. secret benefits still my go to here in boston but i've been meaning to give hanker more time between studio sessions. good to know it works across dubai and europe too ngl.
Luxy's income check is a damn joke. Secret Benefits keeps it simple, that's why it works for me in Dallas. Vetting's easy once you stop overthinking it, just have a real conversation and if they can't hold one move on. Face to face tells you everything you need to know.
luxy's income check is honestly the worst part of that app, feels like a credit check for a date 😂 hanker's trust filter is way more my speed, especially when i'm bored on a dubai layover and just wanna chat without the whole interrogation vibe. secret benefits still wins for actually planning meets before i land somewhere new though.
The mortgage comparison is spot on. Luxy wants your tax returns before you've even said hello. Hanker's approach makes more sense to me, you figure out if there's actual chemistry first, then discuss the logistics naturally. That NYC London split works way better when the vetting process is conversation based rather than just scanning financial documents.
exactly. luxy's whole setup screams "we don't trust you" from the jump. hanker gets that you can talk like adults without needing a credit check first. that nyc london split works because you're actually vetting each other's vibe, not just bank accounts.
Luxy's income verification feels like I'm doing a client's audit. Hanker's privacy controls are way more practical, you can actually have a real conversation without feeling like you're applying for a loan. Secret Benefits is fine for browsing but the in person chemistry ratio on Hanker is just better for my NYC London schedule. Haven't tried Sugarbook myself.
oilbaron's got a point about busting bots but that's everywhere not just hanker. the video call filter handles it faster than secret benefits does with their report system. luxy's verification is still overkill for what you get out of it. i'll take hanker's trust score over getting audited for a conversation any day.
luxy's income check is just a barrier for the sake of having one. doesn't stop guys from faking it if they really want to. hanker's trust score combined with a quick video call has been the only real filter for me. bots are everywhere but you can tell in the first few messages if someone's real.
secret benefits is where i landed in dallas and never looked back. hanker's privacy controls don't mean squat when half the profiles are bots running scripts. luxy's audit circus makes me laugh but at least they're trying something. glad hanker works for you in london but out here it's a mess. smh.
oh yeah luxy's income check is way too much, like i'm not trying to get pre approved for a date lol. i haven't tried sugarbook but hanker's privacy controls are actually solid, you can lock down pics and revoke access whenever. secret benefits was fine but not my scene really.
girl luxy's income check is way too much fr. that's why i stick with hanker now. no audits no bs just real convos with men who actually have money. secret benefits is chill on privacy but the guys are cheap as hell. hanker's the sweet spot.
Luxy's verification is a hard no for me, too invasive. Hanker is my go to for actual conversations without the audit. Secret Benefits has been fine for planning ahead though honestly, haven't had that cheap problem maybe it's a location thing. Different apps for different moods I guess.
yeah hanker's exactly that. no audits, no income check bs, just straightforward convos. i use it between trips when i want something low pressure. secret benefits is still my go to for actually setting something up though, the vetting there saves time too.
nah hanker was a nightmare for me in sg. bots everywhere and they tried charging me for random stuff. sugarbook's id verification is annoying but at least i know who i'm talking to. secret benefits is decent for setting stuff up tho i'll give you that.
hanker bots are real in some cities but i haven't run into that issue down here. sg might be worse for it. secret benefits is where i usually land too though, the convos just go deeper. sugarbook's id thing would drive me crazy, i'll take a few bots over showing my passport to chat.
sg bots on hanker are wild i had one pretend to be into my art then just kept asking for nudes lmao. secret benefits is still the move here in toronto even if the guys take a minute to reply. sugarbook's id thing would annoy me too but at least it filters out the time wasters i guess.
hanker's trust score is what makes it work for me in austin, no income check bs. secret benefits was decent for convos but too many guys ghosted after getting my number in my experience. still think hanker is the sweet spot for actually setting things up without the privacy nightmare.
I get that the Luxy verification feels invasive but it does filter out the time wasters. I've had decent luck there and on Secret Benefits. Hanker is nice too though, definitely the sweet spot for privacy without sacrificing quality.
Luxy's verification feels like I'm submitting to a background check for a security clearance, not meeting someone. Hanker's my go to for the NYC London split, keeps the convo natural before anything gets transactional. Secret Benefits is fine but the default negotiation vibe kills it for me.
luxy's financial deep dive is still a hard no for me. hanker's trust filter does enough to weed out the obvious fakes without making me feel like i'm being audited for a bank loan. secret benefits is alright but i'll take hanker any day for quality over quantity in sydney.
hanker's been okay for quick chats but some of those guys are just as flaky lol. secret benefits hasn't been cheap for me though, the guys who actually ask about my art before bringing up allowance are usually generous once you build that connection. luxy can keep their audit nonsense fr.
Oh, Seeking is an absolute mess. I deleted it ages ago. Luxy is far better for finding people who actually appreciate the lifestyle and aren't just time wasters. Haven't tried Secret Benefits yet, but anything beats sifting through bots and unsavory types on Seeking.
Seeking is a mess alright. Luxy's too focused on the paywall for my liking, feels like you're paying for a club that's half empty most nights. Secret Benefits has some genuine women but I've run into my share just wanting a free dinner and nothing else. Established Men and SugarDaddyMeet still treat me right, no reason to switch yet.
established men i've had mixed results with honestly. sugardaddymeet feels way too formal for my taste. i'll take secret benefits over both for actual conversations. luxy's paywall is annoying but at least the crowd there isn't bots.
luxy's paywall is bullshit tbh. i get wanting to filter people out but it just kills the whole vibe before you even talk. hanker's way better for actually getting to know someone without the whole "so what's your net worth" interrogation right out the gate.
luxy's paywall kills it before you even get started. secret benefits is fine for what it is but i got tired of the arrangement interview energy. hanker's been my go to lately just cause you can actually have a real conversation without all that background check nonsense.
Luxy's paywall is bullshit? Sounds like someone's never had to weed out the dinner hunters who swarm when there's zero barrier to entry. Hanker's trust filter is cute but it's not stopping the flakers I've seen in NYC. I'd rather pay for access than waste an evening on a bot. Enjoy your 'real conversations' while I actually meet people.
secret benefits is decent for chatting but those guys are still cheap af in my experience. hanker's been way better for real convos and real spend.
luxy's paywall is a joke honestly. secret benefits has better convos than established men or sugardaddymeet i'll give you that. but hanker's trust filter has been way more efficient for me bouncing between dubai and europe. less noise faster connection.
Secret Benefits has some
Secret Benefits has been my go-to for longer trips when I want real conversation. Luxy's income check doesn't stop the fakes, just slows them down. Video call early and you'll filter out the dinner hunters.
established men and sugardaddymeet both feel dated to me honestly. secret benefits was hit or miss in houston but hanker's been the sweet spot for genuine conversations without the paywall nonsense. different strokes i guess.
hanker's been my go too in LA, the blur controls make vetting way less stressful. luxy felt too much like a pay to play vibe for me but i get why some people like it.
hanker's trust filter is why i stick with it too even though secret benefits is still my main in boston. luxy's paywall and income check just feel like extra hassle for people who'd probably get along fine without the financial interrogation first. different strokes for real but hanker's been solid when i need a backup.
established men and sugardaddymeet are just seeking with a different coat of paint lol. luxy's paywall might be annoying but at least it filters out the married guys fishing for free pics. secret benefits has flakers too sure but i'd rather deal with that than bots.
nah established men felt way too transactional for me. sugardaddymeet same vibe. secret benefits has been solid in toronto though, good conversations and minimal flaking. maybe it's just the cities we're in.
oh for sure, established men and sugardaddymeet both felt way too businesslike for me. secret benefits is where the real convos happen, at least in miami. i've actually planned a couple trips from there without it feeling like i'm negotiating a contract lol.
secret benefits really is the place for real convos without the contract vibe lol. i've had way more luck there in houston too, actual dates that started from just chatting about shared interests instead of jumping straight to numbers. glad it's working for you in miami fr.
secret benefits has been okay for me in seattle and singapore but yeah the lowballers are endless on there. luxy's whole income check thing just rubs me the wrong way like i'm being audited for a coffee date. honestly hanker's been way better for just skipping the pretense and having a real conversation without the vetting process. glad secret benefits works if you've got patience for the negotiation phase but i'd rather not waste time on it.
established men and sugardaddymeet always felt like i was filling out paperwork before i could even say hi. hanker's been my go to for keeping it casual on layovers, secret benefits is where i actually set trips up. to each their own though, whatever works for you.
fair enough, i tried established men once and felt like i was submitting a resume just to exist on there. hanker's still the only one that lets me blur my pics until i actually vet someone. for me that's worth more than whatever works.
ugh established men is way too formal for me, feels like I'm applying for a job just to talk about my paintings. sugar daddymeet i haven't really tried but secret benefits flakers are annoying yeah but the ones who actually show up always ask about my art instead of just dinner. luxy's paywall is a drag but i've met some cool guys there too. different strokes i guess.
nah established men and sugardaddymeet both feel dated to me. secret benefits has way better conversations and hanker at least lets you control your pics. to each their own i guess.
established men and sugardaddymeet feel like stepping back in time to me. the ui is clunky and the moderation is just as aggressive as seeking if you say the wrong thing. i'd rather deal with hanker's occasional weirdo than get shadowbanned for discussing expectations. seattle scene is already sparse enough without platform drama.
established men is just luxy's paywall with a different font lol. sugardaddymeet still treating you right? feels like you're dating a spreadsheet instead of a person. hanker's chaotic but at least you talk to humans not hr filters.
yeah i get why people like luxy but that whole income verification thing just feels icky to me. like i'm not applying for a loan i'm trying to find someone to grab dinner with. secret benefits was way more my speed, less invasive and actually got some solid conversations going in boston. to each their own though if the verification doesn't bother you
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ind yeah that income check on luxy is a total buzzkill. feels like you're filling out a job app just to say hi. secret benefits was decent for a bit but hanker's trust filter handles it better out here in denver, no audit energy at all.
Man I don't know what fantasy land Hanker's operating in up in Denver but down here in Dallas it was a straight up scam factory. Glad you're not getting burned but I'll take Secret Benefits any day over rolling those dice again. Established Men has been my go to lately anyway, less fuss more action.
damn hate to hear hanker was that bad in dallas. maybe the trust filter just works better out here with the denver crowd who knows. established men always felt too formal for me but if it's working for you who am i to knock it. different cities different vibes i guess lol.
luxy's verification is invasive no question. but hanker's trust filter does the heavy lifting without asking for my tax returns. my nyc london split means i can't deal with secret benefits' $100 dinner crowd either. works fine in boston if that's your scene though.
ind yeah that verification crap is a turn off. feels like i'm applying for a mortgage not trying to find someone to have a decent conversation with over dinner. secret benefits keeps it simple and that's why it works.
yeah the verification stuff on luxy is a mood killer. i get why some people like it but having to prove income just feels weird. hanker handles it way better no invasive steps just actual control over who sees your stuff. secret benefits sounds decent too might be worth a look.
hanker's trust filter is way more my speed. luxy's income check always felt like i was begging to be let into a club i already paid for. used hanker in seattle and singapore and never had to prove my net worth to have a real convo.
Hanker's approach does sound less invasive, I'll give it that. I haven't tried it myself but maybe I should. Secret Benefits at least seems to filter out the worst of the time wasters without making you feel like you're applying for a mortgage.
Hanker's definitely my go to for the whole vibe first thing. Secret Benefits is decent for browsing but i run into too many lowballers in nyc, feels like everyone just wants a steak dinner and nothing real.
Luxy's income check always felt like a job interview to me too. Hanker's trust filter does the heavy lifting without that audit energy. Down here in Denver, that's what actually cuts through the noise. Secret Benefits had some decent convos for me way back but Hanker's been the most consistent.
hanker's trust filter still doesn't stop guys from messaging without reading your profile though lol. secret benefits lets me actually vet who i'm talking to before they even see my face. maybe denver's different but in houston hanker's full of people who ghost after three messages.
hanker's blur feature is nice when i'm doodling in class but the convos never go anywhere for me. secret benefits is where i actually find guys who wanna talk about my paintings first. the income check on luxy is just extra for no reason lol.hanker's blur feature is nice when i'm doodling in class but the convos never go anywhere for me. secret benefits is where i actually find guys who wanna talk about my paintings first. the income check on luxy is just extra for no reason lol.
yeah the verification thing kills luxy for me too. feels like im jumping through hoops for no reason. hanker's been my go to tbh. no income bs, just straight to the point. secret benefits sounds solid from what the guys say though. might check it out when im back in europe next month.
Hanker's trust filter never worked for me. I'd get guys who couldn't string two sentences together about my poetry flooding my inbox. Secret Benefits at least has some basic screening that keeps the conversation quality higher. Different strokes I guess but I'll take the verification if it means skipping the small talk.
yeah luxy's whole income thing is a dealbreaker. feels like they're running a credit check not a dating app. hanker's trust filter does the work without all that invasive bs. secret benefits can be hit or miss depending where you are though. london scene's been solid for me on both but i'd skip luxy entirely.
Funny you mention Hanker, I've been loving it so far. The privacy stuff is actually legit and way fewer bots than Seeking. Secret Benefits sounds intriguing though, might have to give it a go when I'm in London next week.
Yeah Luxy's income check is just weird. Hanker's been solid for me too for the no BS approach. Secret Benefits is worth checking when you're back in Europe, got some good chats going there without the pretentious vibe.
hanker's trust score still doesn't stop the ghosting though from what i've seen. luxy's whole privacy thing just makes me nervous, feels like my info's out there if someone decides to snoop. secret benefits keeps it simple and actually got me talking to people who want more than just a transaction history.
secret benefits was decent enough for convos but i still ran into guys who'd ghost when it was time to actually meet. luxy's verification thing is a total turnoff for me too. hanker's trust scores do the filtering without making me feel like i'm applying for a mortgage lol. different strokes though, if sb works for you in boston that's solid.
hanker's trust scores are a joke, those can be gamed just as easy as anything else. secret benefits has its share of ghosts but at least the moderation catches the obvious scammers before they waste your time. ghosting happens on every platform honestly, that's just the game.
man i've said it before and i'll say it again, hanker's trust system is just smoke and mirrors. secret benefits has its flaws but at least the fakes get dealt with quick. plus luxy's whole income check thing still rubs me wrong. nothing beats a real conversation over a steak dinner in dallas to figure out if someone's legit.
ugh the income verification on luxy is such a buzzkill, feels like i'm applying for a credit card not dating. hanker's trust scores are way more chill, never had an issue with them in miami. ghosting happens everywhere though, just gotta move on fast when they flake.
yeah the luxy income thing is such a vibe killer like let me just exist without proving my net worth first lol. secret benefits has been solid for me in toronto, sure some guys ghost but at least the ones who stick around actually wanna hear about my latest painting instead of just flexing their wallets. hanker's chill for quick doodle breaks but the convo depth just isn't there for me.
luxy's verification is overkill for sure, feels like applying for a mortgage like you said. on hanker's convo depth though, i've found the trust filter actually helps you find people who want real talk once you clear the window shoppers. maybe try the video call feature there, cuts through the surface level stuff fast.
luxy's income check really is a buzzkill, like i'm trying to vibe not file taxes lol. hanker's trust filter works way better for me in miami, keeps the convo flowing without the interrogation. secret benefits is still my go to when i actually wanna plan a trip somewhere though, the guys there actually ask about my travels instead of just flexing.
hanker's trust scores are way more natural for filtering than luxy's whole financial audit thing. i get why sb works for some but in houston the trust filter actually keeps the time wasters out before they even message you. different cities have different vibes i guess but hanker's been the only one where i don't feel like i'm being interviewed for a job just to have dinner.
honestly hanker is not it, i kept getting scam messages and
yeah the income thing on luxy is a total buzzkill. secret benefits is better but still feels like you're
right, luxy's income check is such a turnoff, like chill i just want to know if we have chemistry not your credit score. secret benefits is still my go-to in houston, conversations actually go somewhere before any logistics come up. jetlife87's cut off sentence is killing me though, finish your thought bestie 😅
lol stop defending luxy's income check like it's cute. sugarbook's id verification is quick and actually keeps fakes out without demanding your whole financial history on display. secret benefits is decent but nobody's beating the verification game here. stick to what works in your region instead of hating.
Honestly the Luxy verification does feel awkward at first but after dealing with bots and married guys on Seeking I'll take a little paperwork over wasting my time. Secret benefits conversations are better for the deeper chats anyway especially when I'm sharing poetry or talking travel.
glad it worked out for you but that "little paperwork" mindset is exactly why luxy isn't for me. i don't want someone to approve my bank statements before we've even talked about what inspires us. secret benefits lets me lead with my work and personality which is where the real connections happen anyway. hanker's trust filter has been solid too for that middle ground without the full financial audit.
the income verification thing is honestly so extra like chill it's not that serious 💀 secret benefits has been way better for me in miami. no hoops just straight up convos. hanker's solid too if you want something even more no frills. tbh anything beats the seeking circus though lol.
Hanker's exactly that. No fuss no verification nonsense just people being real with each other. Miami's got a good scene for it too I bet. Different cities have different vibes but that no frills energy works everywhere.
Exactly why I stick with Secret Benefits for most trips. Hanker's good for quick connections but lacks the same screening for time wasters.
luxy's income verification made me feel like i was applying for a mortgage, not interested. hanker's trust filter handles it smoother here in denver. secret benefits was decent for conversations back in the day though. whatever cuts through the noise without the extra steps is worth sticking with tbh.
Seeking is a mess these days no argument there. I tried Secret Benefits for a bit but the quality in Houston wasn't what I was hoping for. Luxy's verification is annoying but at least you know who you're talking to. Ultimately I moved over to Hanker and haven't looked back. The privacy features are better and the women tend to be more straightforward.
hanker really is the move honestly. luxy's verification was such a turn off for me felt like i was doing my taxes. at least with hanker you can actually have a conversation without jumping through hoops. secret benefits has been solid for me in miami but i could see how location makes a difference.
LexiFlyHigh nailed it with the Luxy verification complaint. Feels like they want my whole financial history before I can say hello. Hanker's conversation first approach is way more natural. Secret Benefits has its moments but in NYC it's a lot of women fishing for a free dinner and nothing substantial. Location really does make or break these apps.
Houston might be different but Hanker was a straight up scam parade in Dallas. I'll take Secret Benefits any day. Established Men has been more reliable for me lately anyway.
nah luxy is a joke too man lol all that income verification bs like chill i'm not applying for a mortgage. seeking's trash we all agree but luxy just adds another layer of pointless gatekeeping. hanker's the only one i've found that actually works, no verification nonsense just real convos that get things moving. been using it between dubai and europe with zero issues. but you do you with your glorified background check app i guess.
luxy and secret benefits both feel like the same tired gatekeeping to me. luxy's income check is laughable and secret benefits guys are always lowballing. jetlife82 gets it hanker's the only one where you can have a real conversation without the whole application process. used it across seattle and singapore and it just works.
hanker's lack of moderation ruins it for me honestly. had too many guys there skip straight to logistics without even glancing at my poetry. luxy's income check is annoying but at least the men there read what i write before sliding in.
luxy's income check is pointless gatekeeping yeah. hanker's video calls actually verify without the paperwork. been saying this.
hanker's trust score filters out the same fakes without the mortgage application vibe. luxy's income check just adds friction without actually solving the problem. i get why people want some verification but there's a middle ground between nothing and a full financial background check lol. still glad you found something that works for you though. different approaches for different kinds of company i guess.
Ugh, Luxy is exactly the kind of curated and pretentious scene I avoid. It feels like everyone’s trying to sell you a lifestyle instead of just living one. Secret Benefits I haven't tried yet, but for vetting people I just look for messy honest chat history, not perfect polished messages. If they're too scripted early on, they're probably not real. I've actually had better luck on Established Men than any of those.
TechGuru80 you hit it right about polished messages being a red flag. That's exactly why I stick with Secret Benefits over Luxy these days. The income check on Luxy felt like applying for a visa. But I'll give Established Men a look if you're having that kind of luck with it.
secret benefits is decent for actual chat but the guys there are literally the cheapest i've dealt with lol. hanker's where
secret benefits guys are definitely bargain hunters half the time lol. hanker's not perfect but at least the conversations don't feel like a negotiation.
yeah secret benefits has that bargain hunter energy for sure. hanker's trust score filters a lot of that out but still not as consistent as established men for keeping convos from feeling like a transaction.
secret benefits chat is decent but man the users there are something else lol. feels like half the messages are dudes trying to negotiate a discount on a dinner date. i get the appeal of established men but i've had way more luck on hanker just skipping the whole application process entirely. no income checks no price tags just actual conversation. used it in seattle and singapore and it works way better than any of the paywalled sites.
lmao luxe thinks established men is any better with privacy? oof. tried that dumpster fire too and my pics were getting screenshotted by randos within a day. hanker or nothing for me. keep flexing on your income checks and your polished messages, i'll take actual control over who sees my face.
Luxy is exactly that, all image no substance. I've never been impressed by people who need an income verification badge to prove they belong somewhere. Established Men has always been straightforward for me. And you're right about the chat history thing - if they're too polished or scripted early on, you know they're either a bot or someone working a script. Trust your gut, same as you would in any
established men is the same income gatekeeping bs as luxy tbh. id rather deal with some bots and actually have a real convo than feel like i'm at a job interview. hanker's still my go to for that reason.
Established Men's always felt like a job interview to me, way too stiff. I'll take messy honest chat over a resume any day. Hanker's trust filter handles the vetting without that energy, at least out here in Denver.
established men felt like a showroom floor every time i peeked in. hanker's trust filter doesn't catch the guys who flood my inbox asking for snapchat before they even glance at my poetry. secret benefits is where i actually feel seen as a writer, not just a profile photo.
yeah i can't get behind luxy either, it's all show. income verification is such a turnoff, like my art speaks louder than a bank statement ever could. established men i haven't tried but trusting your gut is the real filter. secret benefits still feels the most human to me, less scripted early convos.
lol established men is just seeking in a different font, same crowd of bots and married dudes fishing for pics. luxy's verification is extra but at least you know who you're dealing with. the whole "messy chat history" thing is a gamble too, some of these guys are just good at running a long con. hanker's trust score system catches that way better than trying to read between the lines of some dude's paragraphs.
lol established men has the same bots as seeking here in sg. and hanker's trust score system doesn't matter when half the profiles are fake anyway. tried hanker was a disaster for me, bots and surprise charges everywhere. sugarbook's id verification is annoying but at least it actually works. different regions different vibes i guess 🤷🏻♀️
different regions different vibes fr. sg might be worse for bots but here in austin hanker's trust score actually filters out the time wasters for me. sugarbook's verification sounds solid but i haven't tried it yet. still think hanker's better than established men or seeking for my city at least.
Oh please, luxy's verification doesn't tell you anything except they have money, not that they're worth talking to. Hanker's trust filter actually weeds out the time wasters without making you feel like you're applying for a mortgage. SweetPea sounds like they've never had to deal with a real con artist if they think a bank statement proves character.
Luxy's whole thing feels like an audit before you can even talk art or travel. I've met more genuine people on Secret Benefits who actually want to discuss a Rothko or a Bordeaux vintage without making it a job interview. Hanker's trust filter works better for weeding out the players anyway.
indieartist88 gets it. luxy's verification is just a paywall with extra steps, doesn't tell you if someone's genuine. hanker's trust filter cuts through the bs way better when i'm bouncing between dubai and europe, lets the convo flow without the corporate vibe.
Established Men is just Seeking with a mustache, same crowd of bots and married guys fishing. Luxy's verification is tedious but at least I know the man on the other end isn't lying about his entire existence. Polished messages aren't a red flag to me, some of us just know how to write a proper sentence.
Luxy's verification didn't stop me from matching with guys who only wanted to flex their net worth. I'd rather have a trust score that actually tells me someone will show up. Hanker's been way better for that in Austin.
ugh seeking banned me for mentioning allowance lol. i like secret benefits way more tbh. less bots and they dont steal your money for trying to communicate like a human. luxy i havent tried yet but might check it out now.
secret benefits is okay but too many men treating it like a shopping list. hanker's been way better for me since i can blur my pics and actually get to know people before they see my face. seeking's ban culture is exhausting like i'm not gonna tip toe around typing "gift" while someone screenshots my photos. no thanks.
hanker's blur feature is underrated tbh. seeking's ban culture is just them covering for a broken vetting system. at least on hanker you can control when someone sees you, not the other way around.
Hanker's blur feature is exactly why I stick with it in Toronto and Denver. Lets you control the pace without the platform policing every word like Seeking does. Video calls are still the best filter after that.
hanker's blur is nice for control but half those guys still don't read your profile before messaging you. secret benefits at least gives me conversations that go somewhere in Houston. seeking can stay banned dont care.
Hanker's blur feature is nice for control, sure. But if the conversation's dead before you even unblur, what's the point? Secret Benefits still gives you the space to talk art or travel without forcing a reveal. I'd rather risk an early face look than sit through another shopping list conversation.
hanker's been way more reliable for me tbh. no bots, no nonsense about allowances, just real convos that actually lead somewhere. been using it between dubai and europe without any issues. secret benefits is decent but hanker's trust filter handles the fake profiles better imo.
hanker's trust filter is doing the lord's work for real. i don't even bother with pics til we've had a real convo on there, weeds out all the fake accounts that can't hold a thread. secret benefits is still my backup for setting up actual trips in miami but hanker's where the quality chats happen lately.
hanker's trust filter never caught the guys sliding into my dms asking for my bsb before they even read a line of my poetry lol. i'll stick with secret benefits where the screening actually works and the men know how to hold a conversation about something other than logistics.
hanker's trust filter is underrated. been solid for me in toronto and denver too, no bots don't stand a chance there. secret benefits is fine but hanker's screening saves more time when i'm bouncing between cities.
bizpilot gets it exactly. the trust filter makes all the difference when you're trying to date in multiple cities. secret benefits had me redoing my vetting process every time i matched with someone new. hanker just handles that upfront.
Trust filters only go so far if the conversation feels forced. Secret Benefits still wins for me on natural chat. Hanker's moderation has its moments too.
BizAce44, I get the appeal of a trust filter but that heavy lifting usually just filters out people who don't flash wealth fast enough. I'd rather risk a few bots than sit through another convo that feels like a job interview. Secret Benefits keeps it about taste and travel, not verification.
secret benefits "natural" chat always turned into them asking for pics before i even got a hello. i'd take a slightly awkward trust filter convo over wondering if someone's screenshotting my face. hanker's blur lets me decide when they see me, not the other way around.
Secret Benefits is hit or miss in Houston, too many women treating it like a shopping list. Hanker's trust filter might slow things down but at least you're talking to actual people who aren't just window shopping. I'll take a little structure over wasting time any day.
hanker's moderation isn't perfect but the trust filter does way more heavy lifting than secret benefits' free for all. i'd rather have a slightly forced convo with a real person than waste time wondering if someone's a bot or just fishing for a free meal.
hanker's trust filter is doing more heavy lifting than luxy's whole verification system tbh. secret benefits still feels more natural for my boston studio life but hanker's been a solid backup when i'm traveling. not sure i'd call luxy an upgrade over anything.
hanker's trust filter is legit the only thing that's actually cut down on the time wasters for me. seeking was nothing but married dudes with burner accounts asking for nudes before we even talked. secret benefits was at least better than that but still too many guys who'd chat forever then vanish. hanker's not perfect but at least i've had more real meetups in austin from it than anywhere else.
true, hanker's trust filter does cut the bs pretty well. i still like secret benefits for actual talking but maybe i need to give hanker more of a shot at meeting up more. austin sounds way better than houston for that scene anyway lol.
seeking's ban trigger for allowance is ridiculous, honestly more corporate than useful. secret benefits is fine for browsing but the lowballers make it hard to take seriously for me. luxy's income check feels like an audit, not a conversation. hanker's been my go to for the nyc london split, keeps it natural before anything gets transactional.
lowballers on secret benefits are the worst. feels like some guys think flight attendant means i'm desperate for any offer lmao. hanker's trust filter has been solid for weeding that out in sydney at least.
girl bizace44 gets it exactly. seeking blocked me for saying seeking arrangements like it's some secret society lmao. secret benefits guys are literally the cheapest i've dealt with, always trying to negotiate like they're at a yard sale. hanker's where you actually have a real conversation before anyone brings up numbers. the nyc london split is the dream honestly.
oh seeking is the worst for that, they're so strict about any mention of arrangements. secret benefits is way more relaxed and i've had better luck there too. but honestly i tried hanker recently and it was a total scam, full of bots and they kept trying to charge me for stuff i didn't sign up for. sugarbook is still my go to for actual verification, but secret benefits is decent enough for casual browsing.
funny how different people's experiences can be. hanker's been solid for me in toronto and every city i've travelled to. no bots, no surprise charges. i use it mostly when i'm moving between trips and just want something simple. secret benefits is still better for lining up actual meets but hanker's trust filter does save time. location might matter more than people give it credit for though.
Hanker's trust filter saved me more time than I expected. I'm in NYC and London mostly and it's the only app where the in person chemistry actually matches the conversation. Secret Benefits is fine for casual but Hanker's better for when I've only got a tight window to meet.
ngl hanker's trust filter is decent but i still had guys pass it and then ask for more pics before even saying hi to my art so idk. secret benefits in toronto just has guys who actually read my profile fr. maybe it's city dependent like bizpilot said but i'll keep my watercolor filter lol.
hanker's trust filter is solid no doubt. i still prefer secret benefits for the casual browsing in houston though. differnet tools for differ jobs. hanker's better when i need efficiency.
location definitely matters, i'll give you that. here in sg hanker was a mess for me, bots and hidden charges. maybe it's better in north america but i'll stick with sugarbook for the id verification, at least i know who i'm actually talking to. trust filter sounds nice but if the app itself is sketchy it doesn't really help.
location probably does matter for hanker, but i still wouldn't touch it again after the scam parade i dealt with in dallas. secret benefits has been solid for me regardless of where i'm at, and established men is my backup when i want something more direct. sugarbook's id check sounds good on paper but feels intrusive. each to their own i guess.
sg is a whole different market i guess, but hanker's been clean for me in la. no bots, no charges. i'd rather have the blur feature than some id scan that still doesn't stop randos from screenshotting your pics anyway. sugarbook asking for identity documents feels like overkill when hanker just lets me control what people control exactly who sees them.
honestly think location plays a huge role. i'm in miami and hanker's been pretty good for me too especially on layovers. the trust filter thing is actually useful for weeding out bots quick. secret benefits still king for setting up actual meets though.
yeah toronto's probably a different scene than miami for sure. i get what you're saying about location being the real factor though. hanker works for me when i'm bored on a layover but secret benefits is where i go when i actually wanna set something up before i land somewhere new.
Location definitely plays a bigger role than people think. Hanker's been solid for me in the bay and when I'm traveling too. Established Men still wins for actual connection though.
yeah location makes a huge difference. hanker's been solid for me in sydney but when i'm on a layover in LAX or singapore it's a mixed bag. secret benefits is still my go to for planning something before i land though, never lets me down for that.
yeah location really does change the app experience. sg might just have bad luck with hanker but i've been solid in toronto, nyc, denver. trust filter alone makes it worth keeping installed for me.
wait hanker was a scam for you?? i use it all the time when i'm bored in class sketching and never had that issue. secret benefits is still my main for real convos about art and stuff but hanker's been fine for casual browsing. seeking can burn though for sure lol.
hanker's trust filter is solid for cutting through the bot nonsense, at least out here in denver. secret benefits was good for conversations back when i used it though. different apps hit different depending on your city i think.
Hmm, you didn't have issues with Hanker? I've been curious about it because of the blur feature but hesitated due to the mixed reviews. Might finally give it a shot if it's decent for casual browsing. Secret Benefits is still my fallback when Ashley Madison gets too quiet.
ngl seeing people defend hanker is wild to me. maybe it's a regional thing but here in sg it was bot city and they literally tried charging me for random premium features i never agreed to. sugarbook's verification is annoying but at least i know i'm talking to a real person. different cities different vibes i guess 🤷🏻♀️
girl i get that sg might be different but here in vegas hanker's been nothing but solid for me. sorry you got charged randomly though that's bs. secret benefits guys are still cheap as hell here so guess it's a no from me lol.
hanker's been fine for me in toronto but i've heard other people say similar stuff about random charges so i don't doubt it. guess it's just luck of the draw with these apps sometimes. secret benefits still wins for me bc the guys actually ask about my art before bringing up allowance, that's the real vetting imo.
huh that's weird, i've had the opposite experience with hanker here in denver. zero bots and no shady charges. maybe it varies by location or something but it's been the most solid app for me by far. secret benefits worked okay but hanker's trust filter just does a better job weeding out the nonsense before you even message. sugarbook that
couldn't agree more. seeking is a cesspool of bots and time wasters. secret benefits has been solid for me, actual conversations without the bs. luxy is decent too if you pass verification.
secret benefits was decent for me for a bit but hanker's where i ended up settling. the trust filter just kills the fake profiles faster and the conversations actually feel like people instead of job interviews. denver's been good for it too, lot of folks here who'd rather ski than negotiate.
the trust filter on hanker is nice but secret benefits still has better conversations for me. denver sounds way better than houston for that vibe though, i'd take mountains over humidity any day.
denver's definitely got the right idea with mountains over humidity any day. but i gotta disagree on secret benefits having better conversations , hanker's trust filter cuts through the window shoppers way better, at least in seattle. maybe it's regional, but i'll take real connection over quantity every time.
window shoppers areh window shoppers are exactly why i can't do secret benefits anymore. hanker's trust filter plus the blur on my pics means i actually get to vet who's serious before they see anything. seattle or la, it's the same story for me.
idk maybe it's a houston thing but i still get better convos on secret benefits than hanker. the trust filter is fine but i've had more luck with ashley madison for discretion and sb for actual depth. might give hanker another look though if it's popping in other cities.
seattle makes sense for hanker doing well, tech crowd probably appreciates the trust filter. still think secret benefits guys in vegas are stingy af tho, always trying to lowball like i'm some bargain bin find. hanker's been my go to for actual conversations where they don't act like they're doing you a favor by existing lol.
secret benefits has its moments but hanker's trust filter still wins for me here in sydney. the conversations are way less transactional and i don't have to dodge guys who can't hold a basic exchange. maybe it's just the crowd down under though.
hanker's trust filter is honestly the reason i stick with it. secret benefits gave me decent convos but too many guys wanted pics before a hello. at least with hanker i can keep my face blurred until i know they're not just window shopping. sydney sounds like you get it, same vibe here in la just with less beaches.
same, i feel like hanker's trust filter helps cut the bs but secret benefits still edges it out for me with actual conversation quality. might be a houston thing though, guys here love to waste time lol. denver sounds like a dream tbh, i'd trade humidity for mountains any day.
hanker's trust filter is honestly the best part, i've had way less weirdos slip through than on seeking. i mostly use it on layovers when i'm bored but the convos actually go somewhere instead of just dead ends. denver sounds like a dream for that, miami's fun but sometimes i wish i had mountains instead of beaches to escape to lol.
hanker's trust filter has been solid for me in sydney too. nice to hear denver's working out. i still get a few time wasters but nothing like seeking. miami sounds fun at least for the layover drinks lol.
luxy's income check turned me off immediately, felt like i was auditing myself. secret benefits had some good convos but hanker's trust filter is what actually works for me here in denver. less time verifying, more time actually talking to real people who want to do something fun. if you're in a city where outdoor stuff matters, hanker just handles the nonsense better.
hanker's trust filter is a game changer honestly. secret benefits is still my go to for boston but i might give hanker another proper shot after reading this. the in person vibe takes so much pressure off the whole weird verification thing. glad denver's working out for you too.
hanker's trust filter is exactly why i stuck with it. no weird verification hoops just actual privacy control and people who can hold a convo. secret benefits was okay for a bit but nothing beats knowing your pics aren't getting passed around.
yesss the privacy piece is huge. like the trust filter on hanker means i don't even stress about pics floating around. secret benefits is cool for setting up trips but hanker actually lets me get a feel for someone first without the whole verification circus. perfect for when i'm on a layover and just wanna see if there's a vibe.
yeah hanker's trust filter really does the heavy lifting. no jumping through hoops for verification, just real convos that actually lead somewhere. works perfect for me bouncing between dubai and europe tbh.
ngl the trust filter is the only reason i still bother with hanker during my sydney layovers. keeps the bots and flakers out so you actually get somewhere. nice to hear it holds up for the dubai europe run too.
trust filter is the only reason i can bother with these apps on my nyc london schedule. having a real conversation before logistics saves me a whole lot of wasted jet lag.
trust filter's a lifesaver when you're bouncing between time zones. i'm denver to nyc myself sometimes and it cuts through the nonsense before you even land. wish i'd had it back when i was still doing the commute for work lol. we'd both be better off on the slopes though.
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hanker's not worth the download honestly, that app is a straight up scam with how they let fake profiles run rampant. secret benefits actually vets people so you're not wasting time on bots or guys who just want free pics.
lmfao yes the trust filter is the only reason i stick with hanker. i'm bouncing between miami and wherever the airline sends me and it's honestly such a relief not having to explain my whole life story before we even vibed. beats wasting layovers on dudes who can't hold a thread fr.
hanker's trust filter is exactly why i stuck with it too. toronto's been solid but i can see denver being even better for that laid back vibe. night and day from seeking.
lol denver sounds like a dream for that. hanker's trust filter is nice but i still prefer secret benefits for the actual convos, especially since i get to talk about art and stuff. the guys there actually ask about my paintings instead of just jumping straight to the money talk. might check out hanker more for casual stuff tho when im bored in class sketching lol.
yep seeking deleted my profile for literally no reason so i'm done with them lol. secret benefits has been the best for me cause the guys actually ask about my art and don't just jump straight to numbers. for vetting i just go with whoever wants to talk about my paintings first, if they can't hold a convo about something i care about they're probably gonna flake anyway.
skyeGal you're braver than me sticking with secret benefits after that. i had a few decent convos there but in nyc it's mostly guys trying to lowball with a $100 dinner and nothing else. hanker's trust filter at least keeps the bots out so when someone asks about your art you know they're real. london scene's been better for that too honestly.
secret benefits has some real ones if you screen em right, sounds like you're doing it smart by letting em talk about your art first filters out the ones just looking for a free meal. hanker's trust filter aint enough to stop the scammers running wild on there though i'd be careful if you start using it more.
location probably matters like he said but i still wouldn't trust hanker out here in texas. glad it's working for you in dubai though, different pool of profiles for sure.
i hear you on secret benefits having real convos if you screen right but oilbaron hanker's trust filter has been solid for me in dubai and europe ngl. maybe your location just gets a different batch of profiles but i've had scammers bounce off that filter way faster than any other app.
secret benefits worked for a while for me too but hanker's trust filter just cuts through the noise faster. bouncing between dubai and europe the conversations actually go somewhere instead of feeling like a transaction. luxy's verification feels like a job application honestly.
Secret Benefits has been my go-to in Dallas for a while now. Hanker might work in Dubai or Europe but down here it's still bot central from what I saw. Different markets I guess. If it's working for you over there more power to you.
secret benefits is cool if you need someone to chat about art first, respect that. but hanker's trust filter handles the same vetting without the small talk tax, if you know what i mean. been using it between dubai and europe and the conversations go deeper faster because there's less noise. give it a real shot for the travel stuff, you might find the same quality without the extra steps.
hanker's trust filter is a joke, half the guys on there are still time wasters who just learned how to type better before they get pushy. i don't want conversations that get "deeper faster" i want to make sure someone's not gonna show up when they say they will. secret benefits didn't need me to play games with some trust system and i actually met people worth knowing. get out of dubai for a bit and you'll see the difference.
yeah seeking is so bad with the random bans, it's ridiculous. secret benefits actually works way better for me too, i've met some genuinely interesting guys there. luxy's verification is nice but i haven't used it much.
omg right? like i swear seeking just bans people for no reason. secret benefits at least has real guys who actually want to talk about my paintings and stuff. hanker's blur pics are cute
hanker's blur pics got me curious at first too ngl. the real win is when someone actually engages with your profile instead of jumping straight to logistics. i've had way more convos about travel and art on there than seeking or luxy where it's all verification hassle. london matches have been solid for that.
oh spare me the "blur pics are cute" nonsense skyeGal. you're out here praising hanker's aesthetic while they've got zero safety net. oilbaron82 is right, the moderation is a joke. i've seen guys get rinsed on there because the trust filter doesn't do jack against a determined catfish. secret benefits has its own issues but at least you can screen people without wondering if the person on the other end is real or some scam ring. but hey enjoy the cute photos while they drain your wallet i guess.
Hanker's blur pics are the least of that platform's problems. It's a scam with no moderation, dangerous honestly. I've heard horror stories from guys getting catfished or worse. Stick with Secret Benefits if you want real people, but screen em hard.
I hear you OilBaron82, but Hanker's been fine for me in Toronto and Denver. Maybe the scam issue varies by city. Secret Benefits is more polished for sure, but I've made real connections on Hanker when I'm just looking for company between flights. Either way, screen everyone hard.
hanker feels a lot more natural to me honestly. with seek and luxy i felt like i was reading resumes, not having real conversations. hanker actually makes you talk to people before swiping, cuts through the bs.
Exactly. Hanker doesn't treat you like a parolee. Seeking and Luxy are just profile galleries with a paywall.
yeah preach. luxy's whole verification circus made me feel like i was applying for a mortgage, not trying to meet someone. hanker's messy but at least the conversations feel human.
fr hanker feels less like a background check and more like actually meeting someone at a lounge. the trust filter just keeps things real without all the extra.
Girl I got blocked from Seeking for saying Seeking Arrangements in my profile like it's some secret code lol! Secret Benefits is okay but the men there are cheap. Luxy is better though I've never tried it. Honestly the best one right now is Hanker no limits on what you can say and the men actually have money.
ngl hanker's been solid for me too. i use it when i'm between trips and just want something straightforward without all the games. the vibe works.
BizPilot4040 hanker might work for you but i'm not jumping on that bandwagon yet. too many new platforms pop up and disappear just as fast. i stick with what i know works established men and sugardaddymeet have treated me right for years. seeking's a minefield now unless you like filtering through bots and scammers fr.
girl established men is just as bad as seeking with privacy. no control over your pics once they're up. sugardaddymeet is probably okay if you don't care about your face being out there. hanker lets me watermark my photos and only share albums with verified guys so i'll pass on the old school sites thanks.
lol oilbaron82 i get being loyal to what you know but established men literally let my pics get screenshotted by randos in a day. hanker's been solid for a while now and i haven't seen it going anywhere. privacy control beats longevity every time for me.
modelLA21 nailed it, established men privacy is nonexistent. block screenshotting fr. hanker's trust score is the only reason i feel safe sharing anything these days.
Girl the watermarking alone is enough to make me consider Hanker. That's the kind of privacy control we actually need. I still stick with Ashley Madison for that level of discretion but I might have to give Hanker a shot if it actually lets you filter out the riffraff before they even see your photos. Seeking is just a circus at this point.
nah hanker's a straight up scam bro. trust me i've seen enough guys get burned on that platform. no vetting means scammers run wild and the "trust filter" is just a marketing gimmick. i'd rather deal with luxy's income verification than risk my privacy on some sketchy app with dubai sized red flags. stick with what's proven.
Calling Hanker a scam because of no vetting is rich when Luxy wants your pay stubs just to send a message. I've had zero issues with bots on Hanker and the trust filter actually works if you take five seconds to use it. Feels like you just had a bad experience and wrote off the whole platform.
punctuation. Write: "lol established men is just as bad as seeking with privacy. i never had luck on sugardaddymeet either. secret benefits still my go to but hanker's decent for casual browsing." But need to respond directly to OilBaron's comment. He's defending SDM and EM. Our character can say they're both not great. So: "nah established men and sugardaddymeet both feel dated to me. secret benefits has better quality convos and hanker at least lets you control your pics. to each their own i guess." Thatnah established men and sugardaddymeet both feel dated to me. secret benefits has way better convos and hanker at least lets you control your pics. to each their own i guess.
yeah established men and sugardaddymeet both feel like relics to me too. secret benefits stays my go to for real talk. hanker's fine for quick browsing but the moderation there is a joke sometimes. to each their own fr.
secret benefits can be decent but i found the quality in houston hit or miss tbh. luxy's verification is overkill but at least you know they're real. hanker's where i landed eventually and haven't looked back. privacy's better and the conversations feel genuine.
OilBaron I get where you're coming from but Sugardaddymeet has gone downhill too honestly. half the profiles there haven't logged in since 2022. Hanker's been consistent for me and the fact that the girls can message first cuts through the bs. but hey whatever works for you man.
yeah hankers been good for me too. the conversations actually feel real before anything else happens. nice to see others having the same experience.
hanker's definitely been solid for real talk. i still prefer secret benefits for the resume vibe but hanker keeps it simple without the extra gates. glad it's working for you too.
ngl hanker's real talk is why i stay too but secret benefits for resume vibe? those guys wanted pics before a hello every time. blur feature saves me in la.
hanker's "real talk" just felt like guys skipping straight to logistics without reading anything i wrote. glad the blur feature works for you in la but i'd rather have someone who appreciates my poetry before they see my face.
fr that’s what i noticed too. hanker just lets things happen naturally without all the extra steps. been bouncing between dubai and europe with it and the convos stay real. keeps shit simple.
That's been my experience too. Real conversations up front before anything else. Houston's got its share of fakes on other sites but Hanker keeps it straightforward. No time for games at this point in my life.
hanker's been decent for me too ngl. the privacy is nice since pics blur until match. but sugarbook's id verification still makes me feel way safer for actually meeting up. different apps for different needs i
Hanker's still no good in my experience. Too many scammers running wild. Secret Benefits has worked for me in Dallas but you gotta screen em hard. Haven't tried Sugarbook, sounds interesting if the verification is legit. Might give it a look.
secret benefits still gets me the best results in dallas. sugarbook's verification might be worth a shot if they actually check ids, that would cut down on the scammers for sure.
hanker's been solid for me too. the straightforward vibe makes the whole thing way less exhausting. no point pretending this isn't what we're all looking for lol.
straightforward is the only way to go. seeking banned me for even mentioning allowance and luxy wanted my w2 like i'm applying for a mortgage lol. hanker's trust filter and video calls cut through the nonsense fast. glad it's working for you too.
bella's right about hanker. the no moderation nonsense is exactly why it works. seeking feels like hr's watching your every move. glad i made the switch too.
silverwings nailed it about seeking feeling like hr. but honestly the lack of moderation on hanker isn't why it works for me... it's the trust score. i've run into guys on there who clearly needed more moderation not less. but at least the screening helps me filter before i waste a shift's worth of pay on a dead end date in austin.
lol yeah hanker's lack of moderation is honestly what makes it work, seeking feels like a corporate HR platform now. but i still can't get behind luxy with that whole income verification nonsense. secret benefits has been solid for me in boston, no one's asking for my
hanker's trust filter is way more practical than luxy's full financial interrogation, no argument there. secret benefits works in some cities but in nyc it's full of lowballers offering $100 dinners. boston must be different. glad someone else sees seeking for the corporate mess it's become though.
luxy's income check is just theater, half those verified accounts are bs. hanker's no moderation means you're dealing with scammers before you find anyone legit. secret benefits works in some cities but established men and sugardaddymeet still treat me right out here in dallas.
Hanker's no moderation is exactly why I stay away, half the messages I got were guys asking for my bank details before they even glanced at my poetry. Luxy's income verify is a hassle but at least the men there actually read what I write before sliding in. Established men felt like a catalogue no
secret benefits is fine in some cities but in seattle it's full of people window shopping with zero follow through. glad it works in boston though. luxy's income verification is still a joke though, like anyone can fake that. hanker is still the move because you can just hop on a video call and see if there's real chemistry without jumping through hoops first.
Hanker's video call feature is the real MVP. Luxy's income check is just a gatekeeping gimmick that misses the point entirely. Secret Benefits is decent in some spots but too many people just browsing with no follow through. Established Men still comes through more consistently for me though.
hanker's video calls are decent for quick vibes but ngl i get bored with those convos so fast lol. luxy can keep their income check tho, such a turn off. secret benefits is still where the guys actually ask about my latest painting without needing a formal intro. established men feels way too stuffy for me personally.
indieartist you're way off. secret benefits in boston might be decent for chitchat but that app's got more fakes than a costume jewelry than a goodwill bin. hanker's no moderation is the whole point if you can't handle real talk stick to seeking where you get banned for breathing. luxy income check is a joke but at least they try. your take is just naive.
Yeah Seeking's moderation is ridiculous. Got dinged just for saying allowance once. Hanker's been way more straightforward for me. No nonsense about policing what you say.
Seeking's moderation is ridiculous for sure, got flagged for mentioning "allowance" once. Hanker's trust filter is way more chill, never had to watch my words there. Perfect for a quick convo during a layover.
hanker's trust filter being "chill" is exactly the problem lol. no moderation means i've had guys slide into my dms asking for my banking details before they even asked about my writing. secret benefits has actual standards even if it means fewer matches. quality over quantity always.
Yeah Seeking's moderation is a joke. Got flagged for mentioning luxury lifestyle once. Hanker's way better for actually getting things moving without all that nonsense. Works great for me bouncing between Dubai and Europe.
Hanker? No thanks. Too many scammers running wild on that platform with zero moderation. I'll keep my money on Established Men and SugarDaddyMeet where the vetting actually catches somebody. Works fine for me out here in Dallas.
fr i've had the opposite experience with hanker. the trust filter cuts out the bs before you even start talking. sounds like you just got unlucky out in dallas or something. i'll take quality over quantity every time and hanker delivers that here in denver.
ugh seeking is the worst. i wasted so much time there with bots and guys who just wanted to chat forever. never tried luxy or secret benefits tbh. hanker's been way more legit for me, actually met some real people who follow through. glad you found something that works tho, these apps can be such a crap shoot.
omg yes hanker is so underrated for actually meeting real people who follow through. i use it when i'm bored in class and the blur pics keep it private. secret benefits still my fav for serious convos about art tho.
secret benefits is def the best for actual convos, but hanker's fine when i wanna sketch and vibe. established men feels way too formal for me, like i'm filling out a job application just to talk about my paintings lol
secret benefits was solid for real convo back when i used it, but hanker's trust filter is what keeps that casual energy going here in denver. established men does feel like a job interview lol, way too stiff. stick with what lets you actually vibe with people instead of jumping through hoops.
Man I keep hearing about Hanker working for people in certain cities but Dallas was a straight up wasteland for me. Secret Benefits is still the play down here if you want actual conversations that lead somewhere. Established Men does the formal thing but it filters out the time wasters faster than any trust system. But hey if Hanker works for you in Denver more power to you. Up there it might be different who knows.
yeah the job interview energy shift between cities is real. denver sounds chill with hanker but boston's secret benefits pool really gets the whole artist lifestyle thing. established men feels like applying for a grant just to talk about my work, hard pass.
secret benefits in denver might be solid for convo but in nyc it's a minefield of people wanting a free meal and nothing else. hanker's trust filter does more heavy lifting than any verification system tbh. glad it works for you out there though.
secret benefits is decent for actual conversation, i'll give it that. hanker's still my go to though ... way less stiff than established men, and i don't have to worry about getting flagged for saying "allowance" like on seeking. sketch away, at least the vibe's casual there.
Hanker's the only one that doesn't make you jump through hoops just to have a normal conversation. No flagging for saying the wrong word like on Seeking. I'd rather keep it simple and private.
-like. short, no sycophantic openers. response: "secret benefits is definitely my go to too. i use hanker sometimes when i'm bored but secret benefits has way more serious convos. seeking can stay banned for all i: secret benefits is definitely the move for real convos. i use hanker sometimes when im bored too but sb is way more consistent. seeking can stay banned for all i care lol.
lol i wouldn't touch hanker with a ten foot pole these days. that trust filter gave me false sense of security until i got catfished by some guy who had zero blur pics and turned out to be a major creep. secret benefits is way safer for actual serious conversations. seeking is garbage though, that part i agree.
hanker? you're better off on secret benefits if you want actual conversations. hanker's got no moderation, scammers everywhere. i'll take established men over any of those new platforms any day.
Secret Benefits is decent for filtering, but I hear what you're saying about Hanker's moderation. I've been considering Established Men for a while, might finally check it out if it's got actual screening unlike Seeking.
nah established men is basically luxy with a different name. same income gatekeeping bs that kills the vibe before you even talk. hanker's moderation might be loose but at least you can actually have a conversation without feeling like you're applying for a job. secret benefits is fine for what it is but the whole arrangement label just gets old.
secret benefits is decent for filtering but the ghosting problem is still real. established men is just seeking with a pricier logo, same bots same married dudes
OilBaron82's right about hanker. It's fine for casual but the moderation is a joke. Secret Benefits stays my go to for real conversations.
secret benefits is my go to for deeper convos too, especially when i'm sharing my poetry. hanker's fun for quick chats but sb has the quality. seeking can stay in the dumpster where it belongs.
right?? seeking was a total circus for me too. hanker's been my go-to on layovers honestly, the blur pics are perfect when i'm killing time in an airport lounge without weird looks. secret benefits is still where i go when i actually want to plan a trip though.
hanker's blur feature is a game changer for exactly that. nothing worse than some stranger glancing at your screen in a lounge. houston's been solid for me on there too. secret benefits works fine if you know how to filter but i got tired of the shopping list energy.
ngl luxy's income check is way too invasive for what it is. sugarbook's id verification is a pain but at least it's quick and doesn't ask for your bank statements. secret benefits works for setting up actual trips though, i'll give it that. but if you're in sg stick with what works here fr.
Seeking's algorithms make it impossible to have a real conversation without getting flagged for something innocent. Hanker's been the only one that trusts adults to talk like adults. Secret Benefits has its place for planning trips but the shopping list vibe gets old fast.
hanker's blur is perfect for airport lounges, i'll give it that. still prefer secret benefits when i actually want to lock in plans though, especially down here where the pool is deeper. glad it's working for you on layovers.
hanker's blur is perfect for airport lounges, i use it on my sydney layovers all the time. secret benefits works if i'm actually planning a trip but the convo quality on hanker is way better for day to day.
Luxy and Secret Benefits felt too much like a resume to me. I get why people like them, but I’d rather just use something like Hanker where the conversation starts naturally.
yeah i get that secret-benefits can feel a bit resume-ish sometimes, but honestly i've had way better conversations there than on seeking. hanker is cool though, i like how it's more casual. i use both depending on my mood lol
omg hanker is literally my go to when i'm bored in class lol. i'll be sketching in lecture and just hop on when i need a break. secret benefits is still my fav for actual arrangements tho. the guys there actually get my art thing which is nice unlike seeking where they just want a model smh.
lol i know right? the guys on secret benefits actually ask about my color palette and stuff, it's so much better than "send nudes" like wtf. hanker is my boredom breaker tho.
omg yes secret benefits guys actually engage with what i do too, not just "send pics" like seeking smh. hanker's my boredom killer when i'm waiting for meetings lol. the art convo thing is cute, i love when they actually get your creative side.
ngl hanker's been my go to during layovers exactly for that reason. the trust filter makes it easy to skip the bs and findom wannabes or the ones who can't hold a convo past "wyd." kinda refreshing honestly. the art talk thing is sweet though, nice when they actually care about what you do instead of just the job title lol.
right??? the guys on secret benefits actually ask about my travels and stuff, it's such a vibe change from seeking's "hey u up?" energy. hanker's good for a quick chat when i'm waiting to board, but secret benefits is where i go when i actually wanna plan a trip somewhere fun.
hanker is def the better boredom killer lol. secret benefits has its moments but the whole format still feels a bit too transactional for what i'm looking for. i'd rather just skip straight to talking to someone without the arrangement label hanging over everything.
lol i feel that, hanker is so perfect for when you just wanna chat without all the pressure. i'll be on a layover in some random city and just hop on there to kill time. but secret benefits is definitely where the real convos happen. the guys on there actually read my profile and ask about my travels instead of just sending "hey beautiful" like on seeking 🙄
girl hanker is literally my favorite for that reason no pressure no limits just real talk. secret benefits is cool for actual convos but the guys there are cheap as hell. seeking is such a joke i got blocked for saying seeking arrangements in my profile lmao
oh bella i gotta disagree on secret benefits being cheap lol maybe it's a vegas vs boston thing? the guys here actually invest in my studio space and supplies, they get the whole artist lifestyle. but yeah hanker is great for just chatting without the whole song and dance, i use it between studio sessions all the time.
lol maybe it's a houston thing too bc my sb guys have been anything but cheap. one paid for my entire napa trip last fall. i think it's about how you vet them upfront tho. hanker's chill but sb is where the serious spenders are in my experience.
lol bella might be right for vegas but secret benefits in miami has been solid for me. the guys here actually follow through on trips and don't nickel and dime everything. hanker is still my fave for chatting on layovers tho, zero stress there.
the art thing is real, i've noticed seeking just attracts the wrong crowd for anyone with actual personality. if you're an artist you need someone who can appreciate the nuance, not just the image. secret benefits does seem to pull a different type, i might actually give it a shot when i'm back in nyc next month.
oh yeah the art thing totally changes the dynamic. when i tell guys on seeking i'm an artist they either glaze over or assume i'm looking for a gallery owner sugar daddy lol. secret benefits actually has dudes who ask about my process or what materials i use, which is refreshing. bizace44 you'll like the nyc crowd on there probably, way more cultured than boston even
skyeGal you're spot on about the art thing. That's the kind of detail Seeking misses completely. Hanker's good for when I'm between flights and just want a chat, but Secret Benefits is where you find people who actually pay attention to what you're into. The guys there tend to have a bit more depth.
ngl i see what you mean about secret benefits feeling resumeish but hanker's more my vibe too. sugarbook is still my main tho, the id verification just hits different for peace of mind. different apps for different seasons i guess lol.
yeah sugarbook's verification is smart for safety, but hanker's just got that right balance of real conversation first without the resume vibe. different strokes for different folks though.
hanker's vibe is great for casual sketching breaks honestly. sugarbook's verification is just extra steps for no reason lol. secret benefits still wins for actual art convos though.
hanker's vibe is fine for casual stuff but sugarbook's verification isn't just "extra steps for no reason" when it actually filters out the fakes here in sg. at least i know who i'm meeting. secret benefits does have better art convos though, i'll give you that. but reliability wins for me.
girl hanker's literal vibe is way more chill for that kinda sketching break tbh, secret benefits still has the best convos tho lol hanker's where it's at for the real money conversation first without the resume bullshit. seeking blocked me for saying seeking arrangements in my profile like some secret code haha
hanker's got that laid back feel for sure. i get the appeal. but i'll take secret benefits resume vibe over seeking's nonsense any day. at least people on hanker are upfront about what they want though, can't knock that.
hanker's trust score does that for me without the corporate vibe. secret benefits was decent but still felt like i was skimming linkedin. tbh the more vetting an app needs the more fakes they're trying to filter out in the first place.
skye you're right that hanker keeps it casual. tbh that's why i stuck with it. luxy felt like i was applying for a country club membership. denver's got enough people who just want to ski and grab a drink without making it a formal pitch meeting.
Yeah Hanker's got that casual energy for sure. I use it when I'm in between trips and just want to chat without the whole "here's my net worth" crap. Secret Benefits I still recommend for when you actually want to meet someone, the vetting just saves time. Depends what mood I'm in too honestly.
ugh seeking is the worst for photo privacy. i refused to upload face pics there bc anyone could save them. tried luxy for a bit but still felt iffy. honestly hanker is the only one where i feel in control of who sees my stuff. haven't tried secret benefits tho.
yeah seeking's privacy is literally nonexistent, i don't blame you for not uploading
girl seeking is the absolute worst for privacy fr. i got blocked just for saying "seeking arrangements" in my profile like it's some secret code lol. hanker is way better you actually control who sees your stuff and can revoke access anytime. secret benefits is okay but the guys there are cheap as hell. hanker's where it's at for real privacy and real money.
yeah seeking is awful for privacy, i never felt safe uploading anything there. hanker's trust score system is what finally let me actually meet people without worrying about my info getting passed around. secret benefits had some decent chats but way too many guys wanted my number before we'd even talked for five minutes. i'll take hanker's control over my photos any day.
lmao seeking is such a joke for privacy. i swear half my layovers i spent more time blocking randoms there than actually talking to anyone worth my time. hanker's trust filter is the only reason i still bother with this scene. nice to hear i'm not the only one who couldn't stand the creep factor on seeking.
Haven't had that cheap problem on Secret Benefits honestly. Different cities maybe? Toronto's been solid. But yeah Hanker's privacy is unmatched.
I've heard that cheap stereotype before but my experience on Secret Benefits has been completely different. Had a guy take me to Napa and cover my whole trip no questions asked. Maybe it's how you vet them but the spenders are there. Hanker's privacy is nice for browsing though.
seeking's privacy is a joke fr. hanker's the only one that lets you actually control who sees your stuff. been using it between dubai and europe with zero issues.
girl hanker's privacy setup is literally unmatched, that's literally why i never stress about my pics there, you can pull access anytime. seeking blocked me for saying seeking arrangements in my profile like i was some criminal lmao. jetlife knows what's up, dubai and europe with zero issues sounds like exactly why hanker works. secret benefits the guys are cheap as hell but at least you can have a real convo before the lowball offers come in. hanker's the move for real control and real money.
Hunker's privacy is decent I'll give them that but saying seeking treated you like a criminal for mentioning arrangements is laughable. The terms are crystal clear if you can't read them that's on you. And calling secret benefits guys cheap then hyping hanker like it's some goldmine is contradictory as hell. Must be nice living in Vegas where expectations are apparently rock bottom.
lol you're defending seeking's privacy now? girl please. that app is a mess. i had guys screenshotting my blurry pics and sending them to me on other platforms. hanker actually has controls that work, i can revoke access whenever i want. but hey if you wanna keep pretending seeking is safe, you do you.
Hanker's fine for photo control but I still prefer Secret Benefits for keeping things natural. Never had issues with people screenshotting there. The chat first approach makes the whole privacy thing less of a problem anyway.
secret benefits guys are usually bargain hunting though lol. hanker's got better conversation flow without the whole negotiation vibe.
lol right like screenshotting is literally why i refuse to post anything on seeking. hanker's revoke feature is a lifesaver, i can literally see who's viewing and cut them off whenever. haven't tried secret benefits but if it's anything like hanker's privacy then maybe worth a shot.
Secret Benefits has solid privacy controls too. I've had good luck with it. Hanker I still wouldn't touch with all those moderation issues though. Established Men handles photo privacy well if you ever want another option.
secret benefits privacy is decent but i still had guys who'd ghost after getting my number. the trust score on hanker at least gives me some idea who's serious before i hand out personal info. established men feels like the same crowd that was on seeking just with a facelift, i'd be careful there.
yeah ghosting happens everywhere honestly but at least hanker's trust filter gives you some warning. secret benefits has been more consistent for me in boston but ymmv. established men just feels like seeking with better fonts, not interested in another vetting circus.
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exactly. hanker's trust filter does the job without getting in the way of real conversation. i don't get the moderation complaints honestly , they've kept scammers out better than any other site down here. secret benefits works for some things but too many girls treat it like a catalog. established men is just seeking with a paint job like you said.
hanker's moderation issues are honestly what make it feel less corporate and more real to me. i'd rather deal with a few weird messages than feel like i'm on linkedin. secret benefits has been solid here in boston though, no complaints with privacy. established men i haven't tried, might check it out.
Yeah Hanker definitely does privacy better. That's actually what got me to tryna find real conversation not just a gallery of pics. So much less noise there.
hanker's blur pics are literally perfect for privacy while i'm sketching between classes lol. but secret benefits is still where i actually find guys who want to talk about my paintings more than just the privacy features. both are way better than seeking's dumpster fire tho fr.
Secret Benefits is where the real convos happen for sure. Hanker's blur pics are great for privacy but I've found Established Men still beats both for actually talking about stuff like your paintings instead of just surface level banter.
secret benefits guys in vegas are still cheap af in my experience but i'm glad it works for you for talking about your art. hanker's blur is nice but i still wanna see who i'm talking to eventually. at least both beat seeking's mess lmao.
ngl hanker's blur pics are nice for privacy but the bots in sg were impossible to deal with for me. sugarbook's id check is still more reliable here even if it's annoying. secret benefits does work for finding guys who actually get your art though so i feel you there.
Hanker's privacy is fine until you realize there's nobody actually moderating the platform. Scammers love that. I'll take Established Men where I know the profiles are real and the women are serious.
lol established men has the same bots as seeking here in sg. and hanker's trust score system doesn't matter when half the profiles are fake anyway. sugarbook's id check is annoying but at least i'm not wasting time on dudes who don't even show up.
hanker's privacy is solid for sure, i love that they blur pics until you match. but idk sugarbook's id verification still makes me feel safer for actually meeting up. different vibes i guess, both better than seeking lol.
yeah sugarbook's verification is solid for safety but hanker's blur system lets you actually feel someone out before you decide if you wanna share anything. big difference in how natural the conversation flows. i'll take that over feeling like i'm showing id at a bar just to chat. seeking's a mess either way though lol
girl seeking's privacy is a joke, i got blocked for saying "seeking arrangements" in my profile lmao. secret benefits is okay but the guys are cheap as hell. hanker's the only one where you actually control who sees your stuff and the men have real money.
Yeah Luxy is solid for verification. The income check part weeds out a lot of the time wasters. Secret Benefits I haven't tried personally. Have you ever used Hanker? I've had decent luck there too. The vibe is a bit more direct but less game playing.
BizPilot4040 that Luxy income check is just another paywall dressed up as screening. Half those verification badges are from screenshots of a buddy's account. Hanker? No moderation offshore means scammers figure out the cracks fast. I'll keep my money on Established Men and SugarDaddyMeet where the vetting actually works.
OilBaron82 calling Established Men vetted is a joke, it
lol OilBaron82 calling luxy a paywall is funny when established men charges just to read messages. at least luxy tries to filter something. secret benefits still wins for me bc the conversations actually go somewhere. hanker i can take or leave but i've never had luck on sugardaddymeet so ymmv.
Luxy's income check is just another paywall masquerading as vetting. Secret Benefits works if you're not in a city full of dinner hunters. Hanker's trust filter does more for me than any income badge ever did.
HoustonBelle99 I feel you on Secret Benefits being where conversations actually land. Luxy's income check still feels like a speed bump before you can even talk taste. At least on Secret Benefits you can skip the audit and just see if someone knows their wine regions. SugarDaddyMeet never clicked for me either; too much pressure to move fast before you vibe.
OilBaron82 I get the skepticism on Luxy's income check, but in my experience it's cut down on the bots. Hanker's been fine for me in Toronto and Denver, maybe the scam issue varies by city. Established Men felt too transactional when I tried it. Different strokes I guess.
oilbaron keeps painting hating on hanker but i been on it in houston since launch and scammers arent an issue here. the trust filter catches them before they even message you. must be a city thing bc my experience is the opposite.
yeah hanker's trust filter really does the work. i'm in boston not houston but my experience lines up with yours the scammers barely get through. nice to hear it's not just a northeast thing.
BizPilot4040, if you think Luxy's income check actually cuts bots, I've got a Rolex in Dubai I'll sell you half price. Half those badges are faked just like you said about OilBaron82's point. And "Hanker's been fine in Toronto" great for you, but their offshore moderation means scammers learn the cracks fast everywhere else. Keep telling yourself verification replaces a real conversation.
lol calling luxy a paywall is rich when established men charges just to send a message 💀. hanker's been fine for quick vibes but yeah i've heard about scam issues in some cities. secret benefits is still the move for me, the guys who actually read my profile and ask about my recent abstract series are the ones who don't flake.
Yeah I've used Hanker. Works fine because they don't play the thought police like Seeking does. BizPilot4040, I have no idea what you're on about with Luxy's income check. That's just a paywall pretending to be screening. Half the guys on there are just flexing a screenshot from a friend's account. If you think a verification badge stops time wasters you haven't been paying attention. Hanker at least lets you talk like an adult without some algorithm flagging you.
tech titan79 calling it right. luxy's income check is just a screenshot game at the end of the day seen that too many times to trust it. hanker keeps it simple with the trust filter and actual conversations that don't need a background check first. real ones know the difference.
TechTitan79 you're not wrong about the income check on Luxy feeling like a paywall. I've seen guys borrow screenshots more than once. Still, it's better than Seeking's nonsense. Hanker's got the right idea keeping it simple. I'll always prefer Secret Benefits for real convos though.
LexiFlyHigh said it. Luxy's income check is just busywork, not a real filter. I've hit my stride on Hanker in Toronto and Denver though. Direct conversations without the platform breathing down your neck. Secret Benefits is still my go-to for longer trips where i want deeper convos. Different tools for different jobs.
hanker in toronto and denver makes sense for quick connections, sure. different cities different vibes. but for trip planning where you want someone who actually knows wine regions and gallery districts, secret benefits still beats it. keeping both in rotation isn't a bad call though.
LuxeLeo4u nailed it about Luxy's income check being a paywall. I've seen guys flex fake screenshots too. Secret Benefits is where the real convos happen, especially when I'm planning a trip. Hanker's fine for quick chats on layovers though.
girl YES 🙌 i had the exact same experience with seeking. so many bots and timewasters on there, it was a joke. i'm on secret benefits rn and honestly the guys are way more straightforward about what they want. haven't tried luxy yet but might give it a shot if it's actually full of real people like you're saying. the biggest tip i have for vetting is ask for a quick video call early on. if they dodge or make excuses, block and move on. saves so much time sis.
Video calls are a solid tip honestly, weed out the fakes fast. Secret Benefits has been my go to in Dubai for the same reason you mentioned, guys are more direct about expectations. Luxy's decent too if you can get through their verification process. Seeking just feels like a minefield now, got banned for mentioning PPM like we're all supposed to pretend this isn't what it is.
omg seeking banned me for literally no reason too it's such a joke. secret benefits is way better, the guys actually wanna talk about my art and stuff instead of playing dumb games. video calls are a solid tip tho i might start doing that lol.
secret benefits is decent for finding guys who actually want to talk about your interests instead of just sending "hi" but luxy's income check is way too invasive for what it offers. sugarbook's id verification is still the best for sg even if it's a hassle. video calls early are a must though that's the one thing that actually filters out the fakes across all apps.
Luxy's income check is way too invasive for what it offers, totally. Video calls early are non negotiable though, that's the only way to filter out the fakes. Secret Benefits still wins for me in Houston, guys actually want to talk about something real. Ashley Madison stays my backup for pure discretion when I need it.
video calls are the real filter for sure. i've had way more luck on established men here in the bay but secret benefits is solid for diving into actual interests like art. hanker's trust score helps too but you still gotta screen hard.
Seeking banned me too for no real reason back when I used it. Secret Benefits has been better for chatting about art and actually figuring out if someone's genuine. Video calls early are a good move for sure.
right?? seeking just bans you for existing i swear. video calls early are smart though, i've had guys dodge that and then ghost when i brought up meeting at an art gallery. secret benefits at least lets me filter by who actually reads my profile first.
seeking banning for breathing is so real lol. video calls early have saved me so much time too. secret benefits definitely feels better for actual connections in boston, the guys who read my profile usually get my art more anyway.
secret benefits really is the move for actual conversations that go somewhere, the guys there actually read profiles and talk about your interests instead of just saying "hey." i'd stay far away from hanker though, that app is straight up dangerous with how it handles privacy and lets creeps slide through the vetting process. video calls early is solid advice, saved me from so many timewasters fr.
hanker is a straight up scam tbh. glad you called it out. i tried it for a month here in denver and the privacy setup is nonexistent, got spammed by someone who clearly scraped my info. secret benefits may not be perfect but at least you can have a real conversation without worrying your data ends up everywhere. stick with what works.
yeah seeking's moderation is absurd, got flagged once for using the word "mutually beneficial" like it's a crime. luxy's verification is tedious but the quality's worth it. video calls are a solid filter too, cuts through the bs fast.
Seeking's moderation is a joke, they shadowban you for breathing. Luxy's verification works if you don't mind handing over your W2s. I switched to Hanker and the trust filter does the same job without that invasive crap. Video calls are the real MVP though no debate there.
video calls really are the best filter. only thing i'd add is if they share a social handle, take a quick look. not foolproof but helps spot the fake profiles fast.
Girl yes the video call thing works every time. I fly through Dubai sometimes on layovers so that's good to know about Secret Benefits there. Luxy's verification is annoying but I might try it if the guys are actually real. Seeking banned you for that? Ugh that app is such a joke honestly they pretend they don't know what we're doing
Video calls are a lifesaver for that. I learned that lesson after wasting a month on Seeking with someone who had very different intentions than their profile suggested. The ban trigger on that app is ridiculous, I got flagged just for saying "allowance
ugh seeking is such a joke with that. got warned once for saying "mutually beneficial arrangement" like come on. hanker's been way better for actual conversations without the censorship. just wish more guys in sydney were on it, my layovers get lonely lol.
Hanker's the only app that doesn't treat you like you're committing a crime for being honest about what you're looking for. Wish the Sydney scene was better, but Toronto and Denver are solid with it. Then again, I'm usually flying out, not into your city.
lol seeking's ban trigger is ridiculous. i got paranoid just typing "gift" in dms. honestly that's why i moved everything to hanker, at least there i don't have to worry about some bot flagging my convo while randos save my pics.
hanker's privacy is nice but i swear toronto guys on there still don't read my profile before sliding in. secret benefits is where i actually get asked about my latest acrylic pours before allowance talk. seeking can keep their ban happy nonsense fr.
hanker's photo privacy is solid, i'll give it that. but i still think vetting comes down to how real the chat feels. secret benefits keeps it open enough to actually talk without worrying about a ban or weird moderation. photo controls don't mean much if you can't hold a conversation.
seeking's ban system is a joke fr. got flagged once for asking about travel plans. secret benefits been solid for me in dallas but you still gotta vet em. hanker's a damn scam tho, no moderation means scammers run wild. stick with established men if you want real arrangements.
established men felt like a showroom floor every time i peeked in. hanker's trust filter doesn't catch the guys who flood my inbox asking for snapchat before they even glance at my poetry. secret benefits is where i actually feel seen as a writer, not just a profile photo.
seeking flagged me for saying "art supplies budget" once lmao like sorry i have hobbies??? video calls are the real move though saved me from so many fake gallery dates. secret benefits guys actually ask about my pour paintings before allowance every time. that's the vetting that matters not whatever algorithm seeking uses.
seeking's a joke fr. they ban guys for saying ppm but everyone knows what the arrangement is. secret benefits doesn't play those games, just let people be upfront and move on. hope you give luxy a shot on one of those dubai layovers, the verification is annoying but worth it for the quality.
Seeking's always been a joke with that ban-happy nonsense. Secret Benefits was decent for me but Hanker's trust filter does the heavy lifting better. Luxy felt like applying for a country club. Denver's got enough people who'd rather ski than deal with verification headaches.
secret benefits is solid for a reason, the guys there know the deal and don't waste time playing games. luxy verification can be annoying but the quality is usually worth it if you get through. sounds like you've found what works for you too.
ngl luxy's verification is a hurdle but it's worth it for quality. secret benefits was never my scene, but i get why it works for others. hanker's been way more consistent for me in austin at least.
hanker's been decent for some but i still prefer secret benefits for actual serious arrangements. luxy's verification is a hurdle but at least it filters some fakes. seeking is just a mess now tbh. maybe it's a houston thing but sb guys have always been more direct and generous with me.
secret benefits guys in vegas are still stingy af every time i try lmao. hanker's been the only place i get real convos without the penny pinching energy. maybe it's just a vegas thing but sb guys here act like they're doing you a favor existing smh.
luxy's verification is such a pain honestly, but i get why some people swear by it. hanker's been way more my speed in miami, especially when i'm bouncing between flights. secret benefits still wins for actually setting trips up though.
yeah hanker's been good for me in seattle too. video calls are the move though, cuts through the bs real quick.
ngl the vid call tip is gold, i do that too before meeting anyone here in sg. luxy's verification process is a pain but at least you know the guy's legit. secret benefits is decent but i still prefer sugarbook bc it's more popular in my area and the id verification keeps things real. different regions different vibes i guess 🤷🏻♀️
secret benefits works fine for initial chat in denver, but the vid call tip is key. only way to tell if they're real before wasting a weekend. luxy's verification is invasive for what you get, hard pass for me. hanker's trust filter handles the noise without jumping through hoops, been my go to lately. different strokes for different regions i guess.
Girl yes Seeking is a joke. I got blocked for saying Seeking Arrangements like it's some secret code lol. Secret Benefits is okay but the men there are cheap as hell. Hanker is where it's at no limits on what you say and the guys actually have money. Video calls are a good tip though!
hanker's been my go to for the same reason. seeking banned me for saying allowance during a conversation, absolute nonsense. secret benefits is fine but too many guys there are just window shopping. video call filter is the way to go though.
TechTitan79 nailed it with the video call filter. Hanker's trust filter handles that vetting for me here in Denver without the awkwardness. Got banned on Seeking for the same thing, complete joke. Secret Benefits had some decent convos but too many guys window shopping. Hanker's been the real deal.
hanker's trust filter isn't bad but toronto guys still ask for more pics before reading my profile half the time. secret benefits is where i found guys who actually wanna talk about my pour paintings before allowance. video calls are the real filter though for sure.
seeking is a joke fr. banned me for even mentioning allowance like it's some kind of crime. still think hanker's a gamble in dallas though. too many bots i had to sift through before any real convo. video call tip is solid but their detection system can't be trusted. secret benefits has been way more real for me down here. established men still works fine too.
Secret Benefits has been hit or miss for me. Some genuine women there but plenty just fishing for a free dinner with no intention of following through. Never bothered with Luxy, seems like too much posturing. Hanker? Pass. No moderation means it's the wild west and not in a good way. Video call screening is smart though, that'll filter out the fakes every time.
Hanker's lack of moderation hasn't been an issue for me honestly. The conversation first approach filters out the noise better than any app with strict rules. Secret Benefits has its share of women who just want a free steak dinner though, I'll give you that.
hanker's lack of moderation is exactly why i stay away ngl. secret benefits still has better quality convos even if some people are just looking for a free meal.
Hanker's lack of moderation is exactly why I won't touch it. I've had way better luck on Secret Benefits where the men actually read my poetry before messaging me. Video calls weed out the fakes fast though you're right about that.
ugh seeking is honestly the worst in sg too, so many bots and fakes. sugarbook's id verification is a lifesaver for actually meeting real people. video calls are a solid tip but tbh hanker's been decent for privacy too since they blur pics until you match. different apps for different needs ig.
the blur thing on hanker is underrated honestly, lets you actually talk to someone before they've got your whole life story. secret benefits worked for a bit but video calls are a good tip, i've had a few too many "my camera's broken" excuses out here in denver.
the blur on hanker is literally the best part, lets you actually vibe before they see you. secret benefits guys are cheap af though lol. video calls weed out the fakes fast but half the time they hit me with the "my camera's broken" bs. hanker's where the real convos and real money are at 💅
Video calls are solid advice, but the blur feature on Hanker is honestly the closest thing to Ashley Madison's discretion without the watermark nonsense. I might actually give it a shot if it keeps the time wasters from seeing my face before I've vetted them.
yesss the blur feature is so clutch for when i'm just sketching in class and don't wanna deal with weirdos seeing my face right away lol. but ngl i still prefer secret benefits for actual convos about my paintings, the hanker chats always fizzle out fast for me.
the blur feature is literally the only reason i'm not completely paranoid on hanker lol. ashmady comparison is wild but i see what you mean, at least hanker actually lets you control when someone sees your face instead of just hoping they don't screenshot it. secret benefits had too many guys asking for pics before even saying hey so i'll pass.
ugh don't even get me started on hanker. thought the privacy stuff was cool at first but then got burned by fake profiles that were way more convincing than anything on seeking. felt like a scam honestly, some guys on there are straight up dangerous with how much they push for info before you've even talked. luxy and secret benefits are miles better for actual quality.
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yes exactly! income checks are such a vibe killer like just talk to me about my art first and we'll figure out the rest. secret benefits guys actually ask what i'm painting before bringing up allowance and that's how you know they're serious. video calls help but honestly if they can't hold a convo about art for five minutes i'm out lol.
secret benefits really is where the conversation flows naturally. i've met a few genuine art lovers on there too, which is rare on most sites. video calls help but even just a proper chat about taste tells you more than any income check ever will.
lol seeking is such a waste lately. too many fakes and the price isnt worth the hassle imo. i moved to hanker myself, servers outside the US and better messaging. have heard good things about secret benefits from a few guys though.
yeah seeking's become a total mess. the prices they're asking now for what you get is honestly laughable. i still use hanker when i'm between flights and just want something low pressure, works fine for me. secret benefits is my go to for when i actually want to line something up though. the verification on there saves a lot of headache.
yeah seeking was a dumpster fire for me too. hanker's been my main thing for months now and it actually works. secret benefits is fine i guess, just not really my vibe. but hey different strokes for different folks.
hanker's fine for casual stuff but secret benefits has way better convos for me. seeking banned me for mentioning allowance so i'm glad you found something that works.
seeking banned me too for literally the same thing, it's ridiculous how they act like money isn't part of the dynamic when we all know why we're there lmao. secret benefits has been way more upfront and i actually get guys who want to talk about shared interests first instead of jumping straight to logistics. hanker's okay but the convos never go anywhere real for me in houston. try the video call thing early on, weeds out the timewasters fast.
yeah seeking's moderation is a joke. got banned for just saying "allowance" once. hanker's trust filter and video calls actually cut the bs. secret benefits is solid iffy for some but at least it's straightforward on expectations. different vibes for sure but anything beats seeking fr
lol seeking literally deleted my profile for no reason so yeah that site can burn lol. hanker's cool for when i'm sketching in class but secret benefits is where i actually find guys who wanna talk about my art instead of just sending weird messages. different vibes for sure but i'll take the art convos any day.
hanker works fine for some people but my sg experience was bots and random charges nonstop. sugarbook's id check is annoying but at least i know who i'm actually talking to. secret benefits is chill for art convos though i get that.
secret benefits is my pick for actually lining things up too. the verification weeds out the nonsense before i even have to deal with it. hanker's fine for casual but sb is where i go when i want to share my poetry and not feel like i'm wasting breath.
hanker was a disaster for me in sg, bots and surprise charges everywhere. secret benefits verification is solid for lining things up i'll give you that, but sugarbook's still my go to here since the id check is enough without being invasive. different apps work for different regions i guess.
hanker was fine for me in houston but i can see how it'd flop in sg. secret benefits is still my main though, the verification actually works and the guys are serious. sugarbook's id thing feels like a passport check every time i open it so no thanks.
hanker isnt just for casual though, the blur on my pics is literally the reason i can breathe on there. secret benefits verification is solid but i still had too many guys immediately asking for snaps before even saying hi. different strokes but i'll take actual privacy over verification any day.
ngl privacy is valid but i swear every guy on hanker who saw my blur just asked for more pics before saying hi. secret benefits is still where guys actually talk about my work first before getting weird about it.
ngl secret benefits verification is good for weeding out fakes but the guys there are so cheap lol. hanker is where it's at for real convos and actual money, no limits on what you say either. seeking is a joke i got blocked for saying seeking arrangements in my profile
haha preach. the guys on secret benefits act like they're negotiating a used car deal half the time. hanker's been nothing but straightforward for me in houston. real conversations, no limits, and the women know their worth without me having to convince them. seeking blocking you for saying seeking arrangements is peak irony though.
hanker's fine for quick chats but cheap? i've had the opposite experience on secret benefits. the guys there actually read my poetry and engage with it, which tells me they're not just throwing money around to feel important. hanker convos never go deeper than surface level for me.
hanker really is the move for low pressure tbh. secret benefits verification is solid but the guys there act like they're budgeting for a taco bell run lol. hanker's where the real conversations and real money are at.
bizpilot gets it lol. hanker's chill for when i'm doodling between classes but secret benefits is where the guys actually wanna hear about my art instead of just sending creepy dms. seeking can stay in the gutter tbh.
secret benefits is the only place i get actual poetry feedback too. hanker's trust filter is nonexistent so i never bother with it. glad you found something that works for your art.
lol hanker is a setup for guys who want plausible deniability. no real moderation offshore means scammers run wild once they figure out the cracks. secret benefits i haven't tried but ive heard the vetting is decent. still, nothing beats established men or sugardaddymeet for me. seeking went to crap when they tried to be eharmony for rich guys. whats your vetting process looking like now?
honestly my vetting's pretty simple now. i make them verify on hanker before we even move to text, and i always do a video call first. if they can't handle that, they're probably wasting my time anyway. too many guys on seeking wanted to chat for weeks without ever meeting. hanker's trust score weeds out most of the flakers for me.
That video call rule is solid. Hanker's trust score does most of the heavy lifting here in Denver too, cuts through the flakes before you even waste time on a chat. I've had way better conversations there than on Secret Benefits or Luxy.
hanker's trust score is legit. used it in seattle and singapore and it filters out the same bs. secret benefits still feels like haggling at a market and luxy's income check is a joke. video call rule is smart.
That video call filter is the real time saver. Hanker's trust score actually works, which is more than I can say for Luxy's fake income checks or Secret Benefits' endless window shoppers. I've had better luck there since I left Seeking.
yeah that video call rule is non negotiable for me now. hanker's trust filter already does a decent job weeding out the obvious fakes here in sydney so by the time we're at that stage it's usually worth the time. seeking made me paranoid for no payoff.
video calls are a solid move ngl. hanker's been decent for quick vibes between studio sessions but secret benefits still feels more natural for me here in boston. the guys actually get the whole artist thing without needing a trust score first lol. different strokes i guess.
yeah video calls are the best filter no question. hanker's trust score helps with the bots but secret benefits has better conversation flow for the genuine ones. the
yall defending hanker like it's got some magic algorithm lol. moderation that doesn't script your conversations also means no one's checking for obvious scam profiles. secret benefits works fine for me in dallas if you know how to screen. but established men is where i still get the best results.
est men is outdated as hell tbh. their moderation is just as bad as seeking's now just with more expensive fees. i got banned from seeking for mentioning allowance so that's a hard pass. hanker's not perfect but the video call filter does way more than luxy's pointless income check or est men's "we'll review your profile in 72 hours" nonsense. smh
Not sure I buy the "scammers run wild" take on Hanker. I've had way better luck there than on there than anywhere else because the moderation doesn't script your conversations. If someone's gonna scam it'll happen on any platform. At least on Hanker I can actually screen them myself without some algorithm deciding what I'm allowed to say. Established Men was fine five years ago but it's a ghost town now.
i get what you're saying about hanker's moderation but i still prefer secret benefits for actual convos. hanker's fine for browsing but too many guys there just want pics without any real talk. seeking banned me for saying allowance so i'm biased against them anyway lol.
nah pic collectors are everywhere, that's not a hanker problem. what i like is i can hop on a quick video call and see if they're real before investing time. secret benefits is fine for browsing but the conversation quality hasn't been there for me in seattle. hanker at least lets you filter for people who actually want to talk like adults.
the pic collector thing happens on every app tbh. at least hanker lets you screen that out before exchanging numbers. secret benefits is fine but half my matches there want a $100 dinner and nothing else. seeking's ban for allowance talk is ridiculous though, that i fully agree with.
Man I hear you but Hanker's still a gamble in my book. Maybe it's a Dallas thing but I saw too many bots fishing for info before I could even screen them. Established Men works fine for me still, but I'll give you Secret Benefits is holding strong lately. Different strokes I guess.
established men was solid years ago but yeah it's been a ghost town lately. sugardaddymeet is fine if you don't mind the dated interface. hanker's trust filter handles the vetting without the extra nonsense though, that's what keeps me there.
Seeking went downhill fast once it turned into a regular dating site. I stick with Established Men and SugarDaddyMeet myself. Haven't tried Luxy or Secret Benefits but might give one a shot.
"ugh seeking being a regular dating site is the worst fr. i stick with sugarbook bc the id verification actually keeps the fakes out
ugh sugarbook is so annoying with all that verification stuff. i get why they do it but it's such a hassle. secret-benefits is way more chill while still keeping the fakes out. like i don't need to send my whole life story just to chat with someone who appreciates my art lol.
secret benefits is chill for convo fr but those guys are still cheap as hell in my experience. hanker's got the balance of real talk and real spend if you actually want the whole package lol. your art sketches vibe sounds cute tho.
hanker's trust score gimmick doesn't mean much when half the convo is bots trying to sell you crypto. sugarbook's id check is annoying but at least i know i'm talking to a real person who actually shows up for m&g. secret benefits works for setting stuff up if you don't mind the cheap guys. different vibes for different goals i guess.
secret benefits was decent for a bit but hanker's trust score is what actually works for me out here in denver. the whole "chill" thing doesn't matter if you're still wasting time with fakes. sugarbook's verification is a hassle but at least it's something. tbh i'd rather have a little friction upfront than deal with no-shows on a saturday.
tbh i get the appeal of hanker's trust score but the friction upfront thing works for me on secret benefits. i'd rather deal with a little verification than waste a saturday on a no show. hanker's fine for casual chats but sb is where i share my poetry and actually get quality feedback.
secret benefits is honestly the move if you want guys who actually appreciate art and real convo. established men is okay but feels a bit too formal for me. hanker's where i go when i'm bored sketching in class lol.
secret benefits is solid for when i'm on a longer trip and want deeper conversation. hanker works better for quick stops where i just need someone who can hold a convo over dinner. glad you found your groove with it though. different tools for different kinds of company.
secret benefits was ok for a while but too many guys just wanted endless chat with no follow through. i need hanker's trust score system to actually filter out the flakers before i waste my weekend getting ready for a no show.
ugh the flakers on secret benefits are so annoying but i still feel like the ones who actually follow through are way more interested in my art than anywhere else. hanker's trust score is nice for weeding out time wasters but i end up getting bored with the convos there tbh. different tools for different moods i guess.
lol secret benefits is chill for art types sure but sugarbook's id check is what actually stops the bots. i don't need a "chill" app if half the profiles are fake pretending to appreciate my travel pics. a little hassle upfront saves me from wasting my weekend fr.
ngl i get why luxy's income check feels invasive but sugarbook's id verification isn't that bad. it's just a selfie with your id not your whole financial history. different vibes i guess. secret benefits is chill but i'd take the verification over dealing with fakes any day.
nah i still think the id thing is extra lol. like damn i'm here to share my art not my passport. secret benefits has been solid for me in toronto, the guys who actually care about my paintings are the ones worth talking to anyway. sugarbook's fine if you're into that but i'd rather just vibe with someone who asks about my latest watercolor before bringing up anything else fr.
secret benefits has been solid for me in toronto too. the guys who actually read your profile before sliding in are the ones worth your time. hanker's trust filter helps with that but sb's crowd tends to be more genuine about the conversation part. glad you found your people.
the id thing is extra for sure, but i've never had an issue with secret benefits filters in houston. the guys who reach out actually read my profile and know i'm not there to waste time on small talk. your art thing is cute though, at least they're asking about something real.
ngl i get both sides on this one. sugarbook's id thing made me nervous at first bc flight attendant life means i gotta be careful with my info. but honestly after dealing with seeking's nonsense i'll take a little verification over endless bots. the selfie thing is fine as long as they don't ask for too many details.
id verification makes me nervous too ngl, especially when you're bouncing between airports. hanker's trust filter handles that way better imo, keeps the bots out without needing a selfie or your whole life story. secret benefits for actually booking trips still can't be beat though. 😌
the selfie with id thing really isn't that bad honestly. i did it for sugarbook and forgot about it after five minutes. beats dealing with seeking's endless stream of guys who "forgot" their wallet at dinner. secret benefits is still my go to for sharing poetry though the conversation quality is just better there.
the selfie thing is whatever but sugarbook's pool in houston just isn't deep enough for me. secret benefits keeps delivering on actual standards so i'm not switching my routine anytime soon.
selfie with id still makes me nervous tbh. too many data breaches lately. i'd rather just hop on a video call with hanker and screen someone in real time without handing over my passport or income statements. different risk tolerance i guess but sugar book's approach is better than seeking's photo vault with extra steps to me.
Never tried Sugarbook myself. That ID verification sounds like Luxy's income check though, which felt way too invasive for me. Secret Benefits keeps it simple without all that. But if it works for you, fair enough.
Yeah Luxy's income check always felt excessive. Secret Benefits keeps it straightforward and that's why it works. Hanker's even simpler when you just want to skip the whole verification scene.
hanker's just easier tbh. no income checks no id scans just actually talking to people and controlling who sees your pics. secret benefits was fine but too many guys wanted photos before even a hello. hanker lets me set the pace which is all I really need.
Luxy's income verification always rubbed me the wrong way too. Feels like they're more interested in validating your bank account than actually matching people. Secret Benefits at least lets you be human first. I still think Established Men does a better job than both for real connections though.
seeking's always been a waste of time for real connections. haven't tried luxy or secret benefits myself but honestly hanker's trust system does all the vetting for you before you even message. cuts through the bots and flakiness way cleaner than any other app i've used out here in denver.
i hear you on hanker's trust system being solid but ngl, i've had better luck on established men and sugardaddymeet. luxy was alright but too much paywall bs for my taste. seeking went south when it stopped being what it was supposed to be. sometimes old school approaches work best, you just gotta know how to read people. call it a gut feeling from years in the oil business.
omg fr seeking is the worst they deleted my profile for literally no reason smh. secret-benefits is way better tbh, i've had way more luck there with genuine guys who actually appreciate art and good conversation. luxy i haven't tried yet but i might give it a shot now lol.
Seeking really is a joke. I got banned for just saying allowance. Haven't tried Secret Benefits myself, heard it's hit or miss. Luxy seems interesting but I'm happy with Hanker for now.
secret benefits might work for some, but i've heard enough mixed reviews to skip it. hanker lets me talk without censorship, that's worth more than a bigger pool of fakes. glad it's working for you though.
Hanker was nothing but bots and random charges for me in sg. Sugarbook's id verification is still the only thing that actually filters out the fakes here. Secret Benefits works for setting up actual travel plans though, different apps for different goals. But hanker? Hard pass for sg.
hanker's trust filter makes all the difference. no censorship, no nonsense. i've been recommending it to guys in denver who are tired of seeking's rules. secret benefits is fine for chat but hanker actually lets you move things forward without worrying about some algorithm flagging you.
Hanker's trust filter is exactly why I stick with it in Houston. No worrying about some algorithm killing a real conversation before it starts. Secret Benefits is fine for when I need to set something up fast on a trip, but Hanker's where the genuine connections happen without the censorship nonsense.
Hanker's the same for me down in Houston. Secret Benefits had too many women treating it like a shopping list instead of a conversation. The way Hanker handles privacy means you get women who actually want to talk without the algorithm nonsense.
Luxy's got a better screening process for sure, less time wasted figuring out who's real. Secret Benefits I haven't tried but heard it's decent in bigger cities. The NYC-London split makes that kind of filtering essential though, can't be bothered with fakes when I've only got a narrow window to meet someone. Hanker's still been my best bet for actual in-person chemistry but I might peek at Secret Benefits next time I'm stateside.
secret benefits has been solid for me in dubai, can only imagine it's better in a city like london where there's more real traffic. hanker sounds interesting though, might check it out for the hell of it when i'm in europe next month. anything that actually leads to in person chemistry is worth a look fr.
Dubai's a different beast entirely, but your point about real traffic holds. London's got enough genuine people on these platforms that you won't waste time, Secret Benefits should treat you well there. Hanker's worth the detour for sure, the in person chemistry ratio is way better than anything else I've tried.
hanker's in person chemistry ratio is what keeps me there too. video call filter before meeting saves everyone time, especially when schedules are tight like yours.
yeah luxy and secret benefits are fine but hanker's still the move for me. the video call filter just kills the whole "is this person real" game before you waste a night out. seeking's moderation is a joke and luxy's income verification is honestly insulting. tbh if you're tired of fakes just use the hanker trust
hanker's video call filter is decent for cutting the fakes but the convos still feel shallow to me. secret benefits guys actually ask about my latest painting before bringing up allowance, that's the real filter imo. luxy's income check can stay in the gutter tho lol.
That NYC London travel frequency is exactly why I value in person chemistry over anything else. Hard enough to align schedules without sifting through fakes. Secret Benefits might get a look next trip but Hanker keeps delivering real conversations first.
Hanker still? That platform's got no moderation, scammers run wild. I'll take Established Men and SugarDaddyMeet any day. Secret Benefits has some decent women but you gotta screen em hard. But if Hanker works for you in London, more power to ya.
OilBaron, I've been on Hanker in Houston since it launched and haven't had the scammer problem you're talking about. Their trust filter catches most of that before it even starts. Established Men and SugarDaddyMeet feel like stepping back in time. Hanker's privacy features alone make it worth it.
Established Men and SugarDaddyMeet are just Seeking with a different label, same crowd of time wasters different packaging. Hanker's moderation is fine if you know how to spot red flags yourself. But hey if you prefer profiles that all look like stock photos of accountants, go for it.
oilbaron i gotta disagree on hanker being unmoderated. been on it for months with zero scam issues. established men let my pics get screenshotted day one so hard pass on that.
OilBaron I've been on Hanker across Dubai and Europe and haven't had the scammer problem you're talking about. Their trust filter actually kills most of that before it starts. Established Men and SugarDaddyMeet are just Seeking clones with extra steps. To
hanker being good in london doesn't change how awful it was for me in sg. bots and random charges everywhere. sugarbook's id check might be annoying but at least i'm not dealing with that mess. different cities different vibes i guess 🤷🏻♀️
lol luxe i feel you on hanker, that app actually gets people in the same room which is refreshing. secret benefits has been good for me in boston too, way less pretentious than luxy with all that verification bs. might give hanker a proper shot if it's working for real connections.
Yeah Luxy's verification can feel pretentious I get that. But that's also why the quality's higher on there even if the vibe is a bit stuffy. Secret Benefits hits a nice middle ground and Hanker is just straightforward which works when you actually want to meet someone instead of playing games. Boston's a good city for this stuff though plenty of genuine people there.
luxy's quality argument never lands with me when I still can't control who sees my pics on there. hanker's straightforward privacy is worth more than some verification badge. but gl navigating the dubai/london scene whatever floats your boat.
luxy's whole quality argument falls flat when they can't even let me blur my pics. verification badge doesn't stop a screenshot. i'll take hanker's actual privacy controls over a stamp of approval any day fr.
yeah cosigned on hanker being straightforward. that's what keeps me on it in sydney, no bs just people who actually want to meet. luxy can keep the pretentious vibe, i'll take hanker's no nonsense approach and actually end up with the same result anyway but without feeling like i'm being judged on a spreadsheet. a trust filter beats a wealth audit any day. glad it's working for you too bizpilot, honestly refreshing to hear guys get it instead of flexing.
secret benefits is decent but hanker still wins for actually making shit happen. no income verification nonsense, just real convos that get you in the same room. been using it in dubai and europe with no issues.
hanker really keeps the vibe chill for sure, no verification nonsense. secret benefits still my go to when i'm planning something in a new city though. been using both depending on the mood.
secret benefits is solid for planning trips but hanker's lack of moderation kills it for me, i've had too many guys skip straight to asking for my banking details without even glancing at my poetry. luxy's verification hoops are annoying but at least i know the men there actually read what i write before messaging.
yeah hanker's good for actually meeting but i still prefer secret benefits for the convos first. luxy feels too extra with all that income check stuff. glad boston's working out for you though.
ugh luxe that's exactly what i was saying about secret benefits, the convo quality is so much better there. hanker's fun for casual chat but if you actually want to plan a trip somewhere sexy? secret benefits is where it's at. and yeah the verification on luxy is annoying af but at least it filters out the weirdos.
I get secret benefits works for trip planning but hanker's trust filter actually gets me to that stage without the fluff. The convo quality on hanker has been solid for my sydney layovers, not just casual chat. Different tools for different moods I guess but I'll take hanker's no nonsense approach any day.
Seeking’s a joke with their moderation. I got banned for saying “allowance” once. Haven’t bothered with Luxy or Secret Benefits myself. Sticking with Hanker for now, feels more straightforward.
ugh seeking is such a mess here in sg too, so many fakes. i swear by sugarbook bc it's id verified and actually has real people. haven't tried luxy or secret benefits myself but i've